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Title: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: hedgeapple on January 11, 2010, 05:05:51 pm
I have a problem hopefully, some you can give me some suggestions.  I egg tanned a deer hide.  It's nice and soft, almost to a chamoise cloth feel.  I want to use it for a handle wrap for my bow.  But, I think it's actually too soft and too moisture absorbant.  Staining is easy, but I want to add some stiffness and some water repellant qualities to the hide.  What woud be your suggestions?
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: El Destructo on January 11, 2010, 05:17:53 pm
Beeswax......I have taken Brain Tanned Deer Hide...and heat beeswax up and rub it into the Hide...when it hardens ...it stiffens the Hide up and waterproofs it in the Process....JMO
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: hedgeapple on January 11, 2010, 05:33:57 pm
El, would I wrap the handle with the buckskin while the beeswax was drying?  I'm needing the buckskin to shrink around the handle.
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: artcher1 on January 11, 2010, 05:45:48 pm
Rubbing in some Tite-bond III wood glue would give you a good water resistant grip. It'll stiffen the leather somewhat also. ART
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: El Destructo on January 11, 2010, 06:06:52 pm
I have never tried to make it shrink on the Bow before...I have put the Beeswax on with a Hairdryer...to make sure that it soaks all the way through the Deerskin...then sewn it on while it was still warm...and when it dried...it was a snug fit and it hardened some up when the wax set....maybe the Titebond would work better...may shrink it more...I do not know that for sure though
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: hedgeapple on January 11, 2010, 07:36:04 pm
El, thanks for your honesty.  :)
Art, I was just looking at TBIII thinking about using it.  I guess I'll need to experiment on some scrap piece to find what I like.  Thanks for your all's in put.
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: Roger on January 11, 2010, 11:00:34 pm
Mix a whole box of strong Tea (tannins) in just enogh water to cover. Put the hide in and wait. Keep it in the house or garage and you'll have stiffer ( kinda bark tanned) leather in bout a week. Normally takes about a month to tan through. It will also stain the leather a med brown.

R.
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: Roger on January 11, 2010, 11:07:03 pm
Here's one I did a few years back.


(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Sparky59/Lets%20Bark%20Tan%20deer%20hide/bc16.jpg)
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: hedgeapple on January 12, 2010, 01:33:37 am
Roger, beautiful work.  I love the beads.
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: Roger on January 12, 2010, 07:27:36 pm
Thanks...come to think of it mine was a raw hide. Yours should still take some stain. Have you smoked it to waterproof it yet. If not it should take the tannins.

R.
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: hedgeapple on January 12, 2010, 09:25:00 pm
Roger, no I haven't do anything to stain the buckskin.  It still a pretty off-white.  But, I've decided to go with rawhide for the grips.  I just wasn't getting the results fromt he buckskin I wanted.  And, I'm too impatient to wait a week or two to see if I would like the tea stained buckskin.  :)
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: medicinewheel on January 13, 2010, 04:03:44 am
Rubbing in some Tite-bond III wood glue would give you a good water resistant grip. It'll stiffen the leather somewhat also. ART

I had tried that before, and it came off in one! Are you sure this works??

Roger, that quiver is really nice!!!
Title: Re: Staining Buckskin for a handle grip
Post by: Pappy on January 13, 2010, 08:13:39 am
Heavy smoking will give it some waterproofing quality's.Then I would just cut it to size dry,then take a 1/8 of an inch or so off the with,then wet it,stretch it and sew to the handle.It will shrink up tight on the handle.That is how I do it.The smoke will make it a light brown. :) It should dry a little stiffer also. :)
   Pappy