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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: PatM on November 18, 2009, 09:26:43 pm

Title: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: PatM on November 18, 2009, 09:26:43 pm

Here's a couple of wooden Magyar style horsebows I'm working on. Heat treated Elm with Ash Siyahs.

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Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: M-P on November 18, 2009, 09:41:14 pm

Hi,  Cool looking bows.   Good luck with the rest of the project. 
Zen--- He specified ash siyahs on an elm bow.   Sorta has to be spliced.        Ron

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 18, 2009, 10:49:13 pm

Nice to see you posting bows again Pat.

Zen. It does say "Ash Siyahs"

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: M-P on November 18, 2009, 10:56:40 pm

It would be nice to know how the splices are made.    Ron

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: Josh on November 18, 2009, 11:05:00 pm

nice bows!!  can't wait to see them finished up!!! Look good so far   :)  -josh

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 18, 2009, 11:24:26 pm

Cool project !!

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: PatM on November 18, 2009, 11:52:53 pm

Thanks guys. The splices are just simple v-splices about  4 inches long. The Ash is edge grained cut to the shallow curve. One bow was deliberately left thick in the splice area so just wrapping will be sufficient to reinforce it. The other had recurved tips cut off it, so the splice is a bit thin.  I'll add an underlay to that to reinforce the area.
 There is nothing really different about this style of bow, it's just an alternate method of  achieving static tips and getting that classic horsebow look.
 It's also a bit easier to achieve stable tips this way.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: Pat B on November 19, 2009, 12:01:31 am

Will you post a pic of the siyah splice?   Are you intending to keep these wood only or add horn(or tempered boo) and sinew later?

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: PatM on November 19, 2009, 12:15:49 am

 Sure I can. I thought everyone knew what a v was though >:D  They are tempered and I can't imagine horn or tempered boo is going to do much for longer bows like this. Certainly sinew shouldn't be needed for such a tension strong wood as Ellm.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: dragonman on November 19, 2009, 06:25:27 am

Looking good, I will be interested to see them finnished and here how they perform,( I too would like to see a close of the v- splice). I've seen nearly identical bows of elm with sinew backs before!!! good luck

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: mox1968 on November 19, 2009, 07:08:18 am

they both look great ,I wouldnt mind seeing a build along of these type of bows (big hint!!)

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 19, 2009, 08:13:20 am

How about a back or belly view Pat, just to see the limb shape  Also how long is it?

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: PatM on November 19, 2009, 11:34:06 am

Will  get some pics of the back and belly views and splices. Essentially the limbs are very much like a Holmegaard which has been cut off just past the step-in on the outer limbs and had angled tips glued on. Working part of the limbs are around 2 inches wide.  Along the curves they are around 61 and 64 inches give or take.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: makenzie71 on December 19, 2009, 03:10:24 am

Have you gotten these down to brace yet?  I would love to see that.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: sulphur on December 19, 2009, 09:52:06 am

PatM, i think you just kicked an ant hill. :D  I would love to see some more specifications.  you make a really fine lookin bow.  I've been thinking about this design since you posted them on the LW.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: Scowler on December 19, 2009, 11:28:13 am

Sweet looking bows.  Can't wait to see them strung.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: shikari on December 19, 2009, 12:00:52 pm

Very nice,I have been waiting to see these strung as well.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: dragonman on December 19, 2009, 08:13:24 pm

nice work, will be interesting to hear how they shoot

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: makenzie71 on December 19, 2009, 09:23:32 pm

I didn't see these before...awesome work.  What do they pull?

(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/pat_05/IMG_0886.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: fusizoli on January 21, 2010, 06:40:19 am

Hey Make is that all wood  :o  Looking amazing if it is! Some datas please.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: medicinewheel on January 21, 2010, 07:00:49 am

Yes, they look great; what is it??
Looks like really nicely made Mandchu style hornbow...

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: PatM on January 21, 2010, 11:05:20 am

That one is sinew backed. It's about 60 inches ntn and pulls around 60-65 pounds depending on draw length. Limbs are bit less than 2 inches wide. I made the bow back in 2001. Marc actually posted a pic for me back then.
 Still working on the other two. Got busy with some other projects.

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: fusizoli on January 21, 2010, 12:12:06 pm

Martin that bow is fantastic from all wood! What kind of wood used for it? At first look I ve tought it is a glass laminate because looking so perfect. May have a front wiew pic from?

Looking foward this topic!
Cheers

Title: Re: Wooden Magyar Horsebows
Post by: preacher7713 on March 11, 2012, 03:44:49 pm

Been looking at trying to make this bow, but having problems finding any plans to work from. Find that most illustrations are vague at best. Do you have any advice on where to look.
 Thanks.
   Preacher7713

AKA Dave.