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Title: Would you hunt?
Post by: stringstretcher on October 17, 2009, 05:05:25 pm
Would you hunt in a subdivision?  In my area, there are homes built on 1/3 acre lots.  There are a few behind me that on on 1 acre, but all homes are visible from any where around my house.  There are deer in everyones yard, due to a very bad acor mass crop this year.  How many of you would hunt, between houses, or in an area where you could see the homes from your hunting area?  What is the closest you have hunted to a dwelling?
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Pat B on October 17, 2009, 05:37:39 pm
If it were legal I would and have. We hunted Dawtaw Island in SC ; a residential community with expensive homes. As we were leaving from our morning hunt one day a woman was talking to the gate guard at the front entrance. She asked if we were hunting.  ::) Hesitantly we replied that we were. She then asked if we were using bows. Yes Mam, we said! Then she said..." put the damn bow up and get your G D shotguns, come sit in the pine next to my tennis court and shoot all them sons of bit*hes!"  :o
  If it were in my neighborhood(and legal) I think I would let the adjoining neighbors know that I would be legally bow hunting so as not to shock them when I recovered my deer from their rose garden! ;D (that's another tale for another day) ;)
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: ryanfromcanada on October 17, 2009, 09:32:24 pm
Nope, imo to close to people. Lots of non hunters could look negaitivly on that. If the wood lot was about 5 -10 blocks then maybe but not just one acre
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: sailordad on October 17, 2009, 10:07:24 pm
absolutely.
there could be some big deer in there.
matter of fact the city i live in has a local special hunt permit for bowhunters to hunt along the mississippi in a residential area.
quit literally hunting in peoples back yards.
theres a hunting show on the outdoor channel dedicated to just that kind of hunting
i dont know if its proper to mention the name of it,but i will.
its called "deer city usa"(i think) lol
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: zeNBowyer on October 17, 2009, 11:02:35 pm
That's  what  is so  cool  about the  bow, in  and  out,  unseen,  unheard:)
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Justin Snyder on October 18, 2009, 12:15:02 am
Like Pat said, IF it were legal. I would suggest picking shots even more carefully than you normally would. You don't need an arrowed deer running the streets.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Pat B on October 18, 2009, 12:21:17 am
Some of the biggest deer taken in GA came from inside the city limits of Atlanta, in small wooded lots between homes.
  Quite a few states are starting urban hunts. Here in NC it is up to the community with state approval.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Kegan on October 18, 2009, 10:43:10 am
Like it's said- if it's legal. I'd probably try to go for the quickest killing set up I could come up with though- heavy arrows, large three blade heads, heavy bow, etc.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: woodstick on October 18, 2009, 11:09:49 am
keep it safe and getter done. you got all the tree stands you want, roof tops.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: predatorcaller on October 18, 2009, 12:56:59 pm
I personally wouldn,t.Nothing wrong with it especially if some deer need to be taken out to manage the herd.Here in downstate central Pa. we have lots of woodlots around houses and business,s and some of my friends hunt em and usually do good.I like to travel north where there are less deer but thousands of acres to roam with usually noone around.I usually get a deer or two every year but only consider that as my bonus.A pack-sleeping bag and tarp and disappearing into the bush for a few days by myself is to me what it,s all about-quite simple!!!!good luck and shoot straight-Lloyd
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: mullet on October 18, 2009, 08:25:12 pm
 If it's legal, sure. Like said though, it would probally suck if one fell over dead at some little kids birthday party, hotdog cookout. We have a few golf courses that will let us go after hogs at night with dogs or Q-beams and 22cal rifes, so we don't wake anybody up.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Justin Snyder on October 18, 2009, 08:50:05 pm
It often becomes a public safety issue, not just a management issue. Utah has several residential areas that are special archery only late seasons. The state requires a special archery safety course that you have to pass with 100% to participate. I think this is one of the few times that the state DWR had a good idea.  ;D
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: billy on October 19, 2009, 12:37:53 am
I would, if it were the only place to hunt or if the hunting was exceptional.  But I like to get away from people and sneak thru the woods with my bow by myself, and hunting in someone's backyard would kinda ruin the experience for me.....but that's just my opinion.

There is a big neighborhood near where I live that borders a long strip of US Army Corps of Engineers property.  It used to be legal to hunt there, but my friend (who hunts with a compound bow that almost shoots as fast as he shoots off his mouth) used to bowhunt on that property.  Well, he used to climb up in trees within clear view of people's bay windows, and the homeowners would wake up in the morning and see him in the tree.  A few times people came out and asked him what he was doing and told him they didn't like seeing him in the trees in their backyard.  My friend has an ego to boot, so he'd tell them "What I'm doing is totally legal so shut up and stop harassing me."  Well, that's all it took.  The Corps of engineers got several complaints about some a$$%#%^^  bowhunter who gave them attitude, and they no longer allowed anyone to hunt there.

That's EXACTLY the type of hunter we don't need in the woods. 
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Mechslasher on October 19, 2009, 09:41:45 am
yes and have several times.  a huge subdivision on the lake here lets bow hunters apply for a permit to bow hunt.  you get a map of the vacant lots and the houses NOT to hunt beside.  subdivisions are great places to hunt and when you have the deer patterned all you have to do is sit and wait.  the deer rarely deviate from trails as they weave their way through subdivisions.  find a house with a dog and it'll tell you when the deer are coming.  it's amusing to see $500,000 homes with chicken wire over the shrubs and flowers to keep the deer from eating $15,000 worth of landscaping.  had a fellow offer me and my cousin a cooler of beer to sit on his deck and shoot the deer as they came in to feed on his manicured lawn.  city yankees are some humorous people.  when i first started hunting the area the fellow over the program wasn't thrilled with the idea of traditional equipment so my cousin loaned me one of his compounds.  wasn't fond of the idea but i went along to keep my cousin company.  the second morning had a doe come in to about 30 yards, she fell over in sight.  15 min. later, a five pointer came trotting in straight to me.  whistled to stop him but he kept coming so i put the fiber optic pin on his throat and let fly.  the 2.5" mechanical point almost took his head off at 15 yards.  the blades severed his spine and he flipped over backwards.  this was the last time i touched a compound.  i gave the meat to someone who needed it but the hunt was no fun at all.  it was almost like shooting fish in a barrel. 
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: recurve shooter on October 19, 2009, 10:00:49 am
i would. on one of the two places i hunt, the 8:00 train sounds like its going to climb up in the tree with you. but hey, deer's deer.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Keenan on October 19, 2009, 11:05:50 am
 Sorry guys I have to disagree with most and say absolutely not on this issue. I live on the outskirts of town and we have allot of deer wandering through peoples yards. Most are pets to people and being how we live in a animal lover mecca it would only give hunters a black eye.   Every year we have one or two hunters, that do take the shot,  and even when it is a good quick kill, it is always spotlighted in the local paper showing the hunter as a ruthless uncaring jerk.
  Also the fact that most deer wandering through the suburbs have lost their fear of humans, and its not much of a challenge nor skill to just walk up and put an arrow in one of them.
  I was shooting my target during season this year with my stone points, when a monster buck came through the yard and walked right behind my target. Massive 8x5 mule deer that would drop anyone jaw, as I was standing there at twenty yards with a stone tip arrow knocked. I had to pass because of ethics. Even if it would had dropped in his tracks neighbors would have seen and once again the hunters would take the hit in the media. It's simply not worth it.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Kegan on October 19, 2009, 01:26:26 pm
  Also the fact that most deer wandering through the suburbs have lost their fear of humans and its not much of a challenge nor skill to just walk up and put an arrow in one of them.

Never even considered that point! Well put.

But I don't know why you're apologizing ;).
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Keenan on October 19, 2009, 02:18:35 pm
 Thanks Kegan,  As this is a right of ours as hunters to shoot in a legal situation I could see my stance offending some.  Though it is my choice not to shoot, doesn't mean that I would look down on any who would and I'm sure by your reply that you understand that.
  I've just seen these scenarios give the anti hunters to much ammunition against hunters. Last year we had one that the Fish and Game had to dart in a suburb to remove the arrow sticking threw the neck and jaw. Though most hunters are ethical and strive only for a "sure thing" shot, mistakes happen. In thirty plus years of bow hunting, I have certainly had a shot go wrong even in close range and so it' never a guarantied out come. I had a big buck that I shot right through the top of the heart run about 60 yards before dropping. If in a suburb that would have meant on someone else's lawn and cause for offense. If I lived in a community of all hunters it would be different, but not in todays world.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Justin Snyder on October 19, 2009, 02:24:39 pm
Keenan, I can see your point. I guess I should clarify what I meant by if it is legal.  In Utah it is only legal when there is a huge problem and the DWR believes it is a public safety issue and they need to be removed in a special hunt.  And yes, you do live in the anti mecca of the world.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: mullet on October 19, 2009, 03:12:17 pm
 Same thing here, you only get to hunt in these places when they are a nuisance. There is a story in today's paper about deputies that shot a hog that wandered into a church fundraiser carnival. It wasn't hurting anything but people Freak out over "The Dangerous Wild Hog". People in Sub Divisions will beg people to kill hogs and deer and racoons when they destroy their landscaping and scatter garbage all over the place. Bears are getting that way here now, It's only a matter of time before they will have to open the season again.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Keenan on October 19, 2009, 03:24:20 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Kegan on October 19, 2009, 04:28:57 pm
Not living somewhere that has a firm anti-hunting population, it didn't occur to me just what an effect it would have on more hunter PO. But you're absoutely right Keenan, hunting in the suburbs you can't just stop at watching your P's and Q's.

I've heard of people being asked to dispense with nuisance animals. But in places where the animals are more friends to the people than foe, it wouldn't be worth the meat it :P
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: kayakfisher on October 19, 2009, 06:38:55 pm
Nope ! wouldnt even think of it , but would get me a bucket of corn and a billy club and open my back door . Here deer, here deer , comon into the butcher room oh I mean the kitchen for a snack >:D
                  Dennis
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: Keenan on October 19, 2009, 07:10:33 pm
Nope ! wouldnt even think of it , but would get me a bucket of corn and a billy club and open my back door . Here deer, here deer , comon into the butcher room oh I mean the kitchen for a snack >:D
                  Dennis

 :D :D ;D  I like it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  I wonder ,,A trail of apples into the barn,,,,,,,,shut door,,,, >:D
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: sailordad on October 19, 2009, 10:50:27 pm
as someone who doens not own land to hunt one.and have to relay on nice landowners that are willing to let you hunt
or have to hunt public land.
if the city is going to give me an area to hunt that is new and known to have lots of deer and i pass their competency test
damn right i am taking the opportunity before some one else does.
now if i owned hunting land,then why bother. let some poor unfortunate fool like myself have the chance
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: radius on October 20, 2009, 01:56:07 pm
i would and have done that.  It's not even hunting at that stage, though:  it's pest control.  Happens here where there is a shortage or absolute dearth of natural predators to live on the deer.  They are as bad as rats in some places, but with bigger piles of poop.
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: rossfactor on October 21, 2009, 02:28:39 am
Guess I've been spoiled in Northern CA, but I've never hunted where I can see the smoke from a chimney.  Would I? Well that depends how hard up I was for meat   :)
Title: Re: Would you hunt?
Post by: billy on October 22, 2009, 11:28:11 am
That's true that in some areas hunting deer is pest control.  In that respect I think bowhunters have a distinct advantage because of their silent weapons, and it's the homeowners who demand that hunters kill the deer that are our best friends.  If you find someone like that, my suggestion is to go out of your way to be as polite and helpful as you can.  Not only could you possibly make a good friend, but you'll set an example for other hunters.