Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Dano on September 25, 2009, 03:14:48 pm
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I saw this over on one of the other sites and thought I'd share it. For those that know Ed, this is old hat. For those that don't you might get a kick out of his work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB_EQP3FoHw&feature=player_embedded
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Pretty Cool Old Dude.....
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really like that dbl.curved bow at 3:05 !
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Great vid....I can only hope to have that kind of knowledge someday
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Great video, thanks for posting it Dano. I love the laid back attitude.
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Wonderful video, good music too:)
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Thanks for sharing very inspirational! Awesome!!!
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Ed's a good man, if you ever have a chance to meet and talk to him, you will enjoy. The work he puts into his bow is amazing. I'm not real sure where Ed lives, somewhere in the midwest, like Arkansas or Missouri, not sure.
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Thanks for posting that Dano. I enjoyed it :)
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I do beleive that Ed Scott is living in Grants, New Mexico....I may be wrong though...... :P
He is the Maker of Owl Bows
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has anyone shot or owned one of his bows on the forum,
I would have liked to see him cast some arrows on his video,
though they are very interesting looking bows
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That's what I want to be when I grow up.
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that was superb!!
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not sure I agree , I think he said only 8 people in the world knew how to make a horn bow,I bet there is 8 guys on pa that can,
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He never said that there were only 8 People on the Planet that knew how to make a Horn Bow....said that there were only Him and 8 people that know how to make Nez Perce....Arapaho....and Western Lakota Style Horn Bows
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The difference between a woodworker and a bowyer? Being born with it, because it can't be learned.
Ed Scott is a bowyer who never learned how to make a bow. ;D
It's quite possible Ed Scott invented bow making. ;)
Seems like a good old guy. Just ragging on him a little.
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Go back and watch the Video again.apparently there is a comprehension propblem here.If i seem a bit hostile,its because Ed is a personal friend of mine.
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Go back and watch the Video again.apparently there is a comprehension propblem here.If i seem a bit hostile,its because Ed is a personal friend of mine.
Met Ed once in New Mexico....and I am telling You....The man is way Cool....I hope to be as Sharp as a Tack at His Age!!!!
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Knowing Ed and his family is a great honor to me.
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I haven't met him (yet), but he made me a white oak bow last year that I have been using since. It is superb. One of these days I would like to go down there and spend a week in one of his guided classes. There is a lot of experiance there.
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Sweeney,
It would be well worth your time and money.I Gaurantee it.You will come away with a lot more than bowyer skills.
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Nice video. Really enjoyed it. Was wondering though about what kind of glue he was using putting on the sinew. Looked real white color to me. Didn't look like hide glue but maybe I am wrong. Dean
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Ed was useing Tite bond glue in that video.
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So this was interesting. I don't mean to sidetrack this thread here, but I think it's really neat. I have been shooting the white oak Owl bow that I ordered from Mr. Scott almost exclusivly for a year now. The only other bow I've shot is what I have made. Not even in the same league, but that is beside the point...
...a couple days ago, on a whim, I took the perfectly good (unused for the past year) production model fibreglass longbow that initially got me into traditional archery down off the wall, strung it, and shot it. It felt like I was pulling a car out of a ditch, kicked like a mule, and I couldn't hit my a@@ with both hands and three tires with it. This after getting used to that superbly sweet shooting, non-stacking, hard hitting, accurate, ALL WOOD AND SINEW bow that Mr. Scott made. AND, it is just pretty to look at too. It's overflowing with personality and charisma.
I think there is something special about all wood bows, even if they stink (like mine do so far), but there is really something impressive about a piece of art made by a uniquly talented craftsman. His is the type of quality of nature and workmanship that produces classics that endure for a long, long time.
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GREAT POST! HOPE I GET A CHANCE TO MEET THIS MAN SOMEDAY.
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Nice video, thanks.
He's so right about having that sense of proportion. What I'd call having a good eye.
Del
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Thanks for posting, great bowyer and archer. Grants, N.M. is not so far from where I live, hope to drop in on him some day.
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Little John....where do you live?? Around Gunnison?
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Mike, no I live in Cortez Colorado S.W. corner. Can shoot a flight arow into Utah, Arizona, or New Mexico almost.
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OK....knoiw just where you are at.....west of Durango....near Mesa Verde National Park....been there to see all of the Cliff dwellings with the Kids when they were Young
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Ed's son Justin,lives in Canyon city.
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i noticed he heated the baCK of the bow on trhe caul. i thought you only heated the bely, whats the rule on this i need to no? and do you sinew your bow at this early of a stave stage or later at brace height?
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He seems to do lots of things different from all the others. Yes he does heat the back, and he glues sinew with TB3.
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tightbond??? Why not use hide glue; Knox gelatin packs are in any shopping mart
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Ed doesn't do a lot of anything like you see on the internet, cause he ain't on here. ;)You can heat the back of a bow carefully, I wouldn't tell a newby to do it. And if you've ever shot one of Ed's bows you'd prolly use TB 3 with sinew too.
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Has he actually switched to TB 3? That's 2 he's using in the vid.
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Whatever, 2, or 3 ::)
I'm done, enjoy,geeze.
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What an odd response. I merely asked a question. There was plenty of debate as to the benefits of using anything but hide glue for sinew. Has it actually come to "whatever" with no reason to look at things in detail?
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Excuse me, I meant to say TB 2 , thank you for correcting me. I take it to heart when people of lesser knowledge start questioning Ed's methods and materials like they somehow know better.
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Hi!
One of my friends told me, that there is a longer version of Ed Scott's video available on tradbow.com, but I couldn't find it.
If anyone knows where to get, or download the longer version, do not hesitate to post.
Gruß
Matthias
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It is a bit presumptuous to assume that others are of lesser knowledge merely because they question someone's methods.
I am intrigued by his methods but I haven't come to the decision that he's the last authority on bowmaking.
There are very many guys out there with considerably more experience.
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Yes, presumptuous sounds about right, sorry.
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there is also plenty of information on this sight to about the advantages and disadvantages to using Tightbond and hide glue and hideglue in the bottle. Sometimes a little research goes a long way before questioning somebody with a lot of knowledge. And is not afraid of trying different things without asking first. JMO Robustous (James Parker), also heat treats the back of his bamboo backed bows along with John Pruitt. Like Dano said, it's not for beginners unless you have plenty of wood.
and then you have Doers and Debaters, that aren't sure if they want to make that leap. Let chips fly, shave wood and get the answers with experiance. That's what Ed did. He is saving you wood and a big learning curve. Either use it or seek somebody else out. And he is not the only authority on bow making.
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You made a good point Eddie, I'm sorry if I came off like Ed is the last word on bow makin, I like the man and his style, forgive me for being so emotional about it. I know he's not the only authority in this craft, I didn't mean it to sound like that. The nice thing is, I know most of the authorities in this craft and a lot of them have left forums like these for one reason or another, the ones that haven't I have a ton of respect for, I don't have their patience with people that I would like to.
So if I hurt anyones feelings, BITE ME ;D I'll try to be nicer in the future.
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I've known PatM for many years. I would hesitate in listing him as one with lesser knowledge
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O Yeah!!!
Well Danos been down a trail er two hisself.Besides,he lives in Nevada,so that makes him better.LOL
And Yes,Ed does use Tb3 now as well.
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But he still insists on usein that Damn Yeller wood!!!! >:D
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... I take it to heart when people of lesser knowledge start questioning Ed's methods and materials like they somehow know better.
Dano, many of the great ones I came across do things different from all the others, that's what makes them great ones.
(Also came across those who try to be different, hoping that makes them great ones.)
But the lesser may always question the greater, that's what the greater did when he was the lesser.
Thought it was the place to ask questions here? Even be questioning??
We are free to do that, aren't we???
And to make it very clear, I did not question Ed Scott's knowledge at all, I state he seems to do thinks different from all the others.
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medicinewheel, thanks for bringing that up, I wasn't pissed because of a valid question, there are two types of questions, one will get help the other will be less than helpful. And yep we are free, to say about anything we like. Thanks to the men and women who protect this land.
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awesome video!! as for whether to use hide glue or TB, I've never tried tb and I've never done a sinew backed bow.But I do use hide glue for laminations.
I came across an interesting article on the net. I don't have a link for it, but it is entitled "A Note on Indian Bow Making
or the Secrets of Sinew Revealed "
It is very informative and well worth checking out if you are at all indesisive about the properties and performance of glues.
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I'm not sure if I should be drudging up this old post - but it seemed more appropriate that starting a new one, the subject matter is the same.
For those who watched the first 9 minute interview with Ed Scott, they have since released the interview in an 'uncut' format. It's about 8 or 9 videos long, and he goes through some of his techniques. I found it very interesting, and thought that some others who may have a couple hours to kill might enjoy watching him work. He sure knows his stuff.
OH - this is my first post. Hi everyone! I'm Blah, and I'm from Calgary, Canada. I haven't crafted a bow yet, but as soon as I have a spot in my garage I'm going to craft my first. Can't wait!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWVrNbEMqRg&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWVrNbEMqRg&feature=relmfu) Is the first of the Uncut interview.
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Got nothing against the man, and he does do some good work....BUT....His advertisement where he calls himself "bowyer extraordinare" always rubbed me the wrong way. Guess people can have opinions. :o
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I've met Ed Scott and got to hold some of his bows. Bowyer extraordinare is an understatement.
Blah: I've downloaded all the uncut videos on my computer at work. I watch them every now and then when it is slow.
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It was this video that inspired me to take a try on bow-making. Especially the atmosphere of his workshop. I still need one of these stoves, however... :laugh: I watched it one night on youtube. Next day, I was out hunting for a piece of wood...