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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: StevenT on September 14, 2009, 06:59:18 pm

Title: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: StevenT on September 14, 2009, 06:59:18 pm
As I was coming hoom today, I notice a neighbor cut down a persimmon tree about 6 to 8 inches across. How does persimmon wood work for bow making?
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: knightd on September 14, 2009, 07:45:09 pm
I have made a few bows from it and it makes a decent bow.. Treat it like a white wood.. ;)
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: xin on September 14, 2009, 07:49:38 pm
I've never personally made a persimmon bow; however, the one's  I've seen were absolutely beautiful.  I think they're somewhat weak in tension and are safer with a rawhide backing.  I think they have good compression strength.  I would go  for it.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Pat B on September 14, 2009, 08:15:34 pm
I've never tried persimmon but would if I could find an untwisted piece.  ::)  If it splits straight, yes, it will make a good bow. Other advice above sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 14, 2009, 10:05:26 pm
Pat, that stave I gave you ain't twisted more than 45 degrees or so....;D I've still got its sister, I'll at-tackt it with a heat gun and pipe wrench one of these days.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: sailordad on September 14, 2009, 11:14:12 pm
persimmon

now theres one i havent aquired as of yet
would like to give it a try someday
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: bcbull on September 14, 2009, 11:34:08 pm
IV MADE A COUPLE  TREAT IT LIKE WHITE WOOD MAKE UR LIMBS WIDE FINISHES OUT VERY PRETTY   AND IF I EVER MAKE ANOTHER I WILL DEFINTALY HEAT TREAT IT
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: StevenT on September 15, 2009, 09:39:38 am
Sailordad,
Are you going to the 2nd NC knappin by chance?
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: smokeu on September 15, 2009, 10:14:52 am
Twisted limbs makes some very nice ones... the wood is very pretty too.

Good Luck

Mike
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: StevenT on September 15, 2009, 10:35:25 am
My neighbor cut the trunk before I got back to him, so I wound up with two pieces. The bottom piece is about 7 to 8 inches wide, but it is only about 54 inches long. The other piece is about 4 inches across at the narrow end but is over 6 ft long. They both look pretty straight to me.

I have been reading everyones post since joining a few weeks ago and I think at some point after I learn more about knapping I would like to give making a bow a try. I don't know squat about making a bow except what I have read here, so I may be biting off more than I can chew.

So, what do you think of these two pieces of wood? Is the larger piece too short?  I would like to do the right thing with them to get them drying out. Should I take the bark off?  I am going to clean the limbs off and clean up the ends. Also, I have read about sealing the ends, I think to prevent splitting. What should I use to seal the ends? If I take the bark off, do I seal the whole thing?

Thanks
Steven

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Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Pat B on September 15, 2009, 06:26:13 pm
Those limbs will cause you trouble! If they were clear wood with no limbs I'd say go for it...but with the limbs I'd say...golf club heads! ;D
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 15, 2009, 07:04:21 pm
Yeah, you don't want to go messing with a piece of wood that has a bunch of limbs sticking out of it, especially if you haven't made a bow before (or even if you have for that matter.) What you need is a straight, clean piece of trunk taken from below the first limbs.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 15, 2009, 07:12:28 pm
Steven, are you coming to the NC Knap-in? If you are I'll bring you a bow stave.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: Dano on September 15, 2009, 08:08:26 pm
You might get billets out of the top log.
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: StevenT on September 15, 2009, 09:48:48 pm
Bummer. I was sure hoping I had some good pieces of wood.  :'( Well, I learned my first thing, stay away from branches. Thanks for saving me a headache or two.

Hillbilly,
Yes, I'm coming to the NC knap-in. I will be there all three days. I would be most grateful for the stave. Heck, do you need a piece of persimmon.. I just happen to have a couple pieces that will be in the truck.  ;D

I plan to learn everything I can about bowmaking that you guys will be showing. As I said somewhere else, this will be my first and I am really looking forward to it. See you Friday.

Steven
Title: Re: Does persimmon make a good bow?
Post by: bcbull on September 15, 2009, 11:06:35 pm
STEVEN  HOW LONG IS THE BIG PIECE FROM THE END TO THE FIRST BRANCH ?  IM WONDERIN IF  YA MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH TO CUT IT OFF THEN SPLIT IT THEN LATER SPLICE IT ??  MAYBE UD HAVE ENOUGH FOR A STAVE THEN HAHA JUST A THOUGHT IF YA DONT WANNA WASTE IT AND HAVE UR HEART SET ON IT HA BROCK