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Title: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 24, 2009, 09:24:59 am: i was working on my cane last night, got em good and strait, cut down to just a little longer than the length i need. i started cutting nocks last night. i was useing a thin serrated blade to cut the nock itself, then a piece of sand paper to get the inside of it smooth. well while i was sawing on one i went to far, split the node, and added the 3rd large scar to my right index finger sence july. :'(

anyway, after that i got a cloths hanger and got it red hot on the stove and burned the nocks in. how do yall do it with out cutting off your fingers?
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: mullet on August 24, 2009, 09:38:36 am: I cut mine on the band saw then clean it up with a file and sand paper.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 24, 2009, 09:43:34 am: i may just wait till this weekend and do that at my grandpa's house. he has all the tools.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: scattershot on August 24, 2009, 11:59:37 am: I do mine with a hacksaw, then open it up with a chainsaw file.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: sailordad on August 24, 2009, 02:04:10 pm: i either use a hacksaw,or coping saw,or just a piece of rock ifn i am making a truly primitive arrow
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: Hillbilly on August 24, 2009, 04:48:08 pm: Saw a slot 3/8" deep and then open it up with a small round file, usually.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: Pat B on August 24, 2009, 11:37:52 pm: I use a band saw to make the initial slot then fit it to the string with a thin bladed knife and sand paper.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: knightd on August 24, 2009, 11:56:37 pm: I wrap mine before I start cutting them to keep them from spliting.. ;)
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 01:03:34 am: Does anyone drill a hole through the shaft then saw to the hole so it looks like a commercial plastic knock?
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 25, 2009, 09:19:46 am: Quote from: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 01:03:34 am
Does anyone drill a hole through the shaft then saw to the hole so it looks like a commercial plastic knock?

i have done it with shoot arrows, they worked well, but i dont knowi f it would work with cane or not
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: n2everythg on August 25, 2009, 10:36:57 am: dremmel tools rule if you have one.
Just made 15 nocks on new arrows the other night.
I use a cutting blade to make the first straight cut. It is prob an inch dia and made for cutting wood. then I take a drill blade that is made for taking out grout from tile. It is the perfect diameter for my string with serving. run that through the bottom and widen it a bit.
Then take a sanding drum and shape up the top. finish up with a couple licks of sand paper and you have a knock that snaps on the string and didnt take long at all.

I do each step with all arrows. i.e., cut all depths then drill out all centers etc.
let me know if you need pics of the dremmel extensions. If you have one it works great.
later
wade
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 08:24:32 pm: Quote from: recurve shooter on August 25, 2009, 09:19:46 am
Quote from: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 01:03:34 am
Does anyone drill a hole through the shaft then saw to the hole so it looks like a commercial plastic knock?

i have done it with shoot arrows, they worked well, but i dont knowi f it would work with cane or not

I use the drill hole first method with cane arrow, BUT I glue in a small dowel in the hollow, let it dry a day or so then drill it. I tape the cane also to help prevent splitting. I am NO expert on arrow making. I've made about 6 cane arrows and about 6 dowel arrows. So, this method might be completely screwy. It just what I figured out. haha
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 25, 2009, 11:24:31 pm: Quote from: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 08:24:32 pm
Quote from: recurve shooter on August 25, 2009, 09:19:46 am
Quote from: hedgeapple on August 25, 2009, 01:03:34 am
Does anyone drill a hole through the shaft then saw to the hole so it looks like a commercial plastic knock?

i have done it with shoot arrows, they worked well, but i dont knowi f it would work with cane or not

I use the drill hole fist method with cane arrow, BUT I clue in a small dowel in the hollow, let it dry a day or so then drill it. I tape the cane also to help prevent splitting. I am NO expert on arrow making. I've made about 6 cane arrows and about 6 dowel arrows. So, this method might be completely screwy. It just what I figured out. haha

i seen em done like that. might work well, but im to lazy to get the dowels to fit. gunna go with self nocks on the first set and see how they treat me.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: PeteC on August 26, 2009, 10:11:35 pm: I've tried about everything mentioned here,but the best thing I have found bar-none,is a ceramic saw.(It is made in a coping saw type frame).I got mine at lowe's.With this tool you can cut nocks in seconds,and make them look good too. ;) God Bless
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 27, 2009, 09:23:14 am: huh. i think you just hit on the one tool that my grandpa aint got for me to pillage.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2009, 11:05:08 am: Recurve, the ceramic saw blade that Pete is reffering to is a simple piece of wire with abrasive material added to it. You can buy one at any hardware store for just a few bucks. I made a wood handle for mine but they are set up to use in a hack saw frame.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: recurve shooter on August 27, 2009, 10:11:09 pm: oh! well thats simple enough. but i got to playing with my burned in nocks today and they work great, so im gunna go with that for now.
Title: Re: well i learned how NOT to cut self nocks in my cane
Post by: part Cherokee on August 31, 2009, 05:11:53 pm: Osiyo,
You dont have to use a saw at all to put self nocks in cane . Get a sharp knife,hold it at a 45 degree angle at about 3/4 of an inch from the end where you want a nock,now cut using strokes going away from your body. Now rotate it 180 degrees and do the same thing. Then i use a thin folded piece of 80 grit sand paper to sand out the center. Thats all there is to it. I cut my slots for the arrowhead the same way. If you have question pm me.
wado
Matt