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Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: J05H on August 22, 2009, 09:42:39 am

Title: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 22, 2009, 09:42:39 am
Hi. I've only been shooting for about 3 weeks now and I've noticed that most of my shots end up 5 or so inches to the left of the target at around 15 to 20 yards. Is there a specific problem that I should work on that could correct this? I think it may be my loose. I've been working on it but I can't seem to get it right.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Hillbilly on August 22, 2009, 09:46:45 am
That's a very common problem with right-handed shooters. Other causes could be arrows that are spined too stiff for the bow, especially if it has a wide-ish handle, or your stance and alignment. If you are shooting with the bow held straight up and down or almost vertical, try canting it to the right at at least a 45 degree angle. And get your arrow under your eye. I had the same problem when I started shooting many moons ago, and it eventually worked itself out so that now I can miss in all directions equally instead of just to the left. ;D
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: cooksomerice on August 22, 2009, 09:51:28 am
I had the same problem with my osage selfbow.  You should try canting the bow more.  I don't know why, but just doing that fixed my problem.  Now if I just knew how to fix the other 27 problems.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 22, 2009, 09:55:45 am
Thanks for the help guys. I'll definitely try that.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: woodstick on August 24, 2009, 09:46:34 pm
repeat check arrows for the bow, cant and make sure you aint jerking your bow arm out of the way to see the arrow. iam perfect so i really cant help alot. i mean perfect at missing. it just takes alot of shooting and you will figure out your style. one day it will click. keep the wood slangin.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: recurve shooter on August 25, 2009, 10:04:17 am
jo5h when i frist started my arrows were way to stiff and i had the same problem. DONT IGNORE THIS! MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PROPERLY SPINED ARROWS!!
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: robby on August 25, 2009, 12:58:25 pm
Josh, I had that very same problem years ago. I solved it by making bow after bow until I got them to shoot straight. Its kind of a round about solution, but it works.
Robby
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 26, 2009, 02:45:59 am
I don't think it's spine.  My bow is 60# @28" and it's an inch and a half wide at the arrow pass. With 100 grain field points, I figured I would need about 40lb arrows. The arrows I bought are 30-50lb Carbon Express from Wal-Mart. They may not be right but the selection at Wal-Mart is limited and I haven't got the money to go somewhere like Bass Pro. I have some materials on the way to make my own. It may just be that they are not matched well enough. I don't know. Thanks for the suggestions.

Josh
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: recurve shooter on August 26, 2009, 09:19:17 am
oh, well i dont know. are you just switching from a compound?
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: robby on August 26, 2009, 09:27:38 am
Josh, I wasn't kidding about my solution. When My kids were little I wouldn't spend a nickel on myself for my primitive indulgences, what precious little time I had, would be used up making making arrows for a bow, or bows for a set of arrows that I had made, trying to get a good match up, Its a good way to build up an inventory and doesn't cost any more than a little chain saw fuel, or sweat if you only have an axe. I'd loose those carbon arrows first off and think hard on narrowing down the handle a bit, go out and cut a nice manageable diameter, clear, red or white ash tree and start making shafting. Course, I don't know your situation, and my advise is meant only a encouragement, please don't take it any other way. Good luck!
Robby
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: recurve shooter on August 26, 2009, 09:57:41 am
oh, are you useing vanes or real feathers?
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Kegan on August 26, 2009, 12:25:01 pm
Carbon arrows, especially with vanes, won't want to fly right out of a wide handled selfbow like that. You can try swithcing to feathers (if necessary) and canting the bow at about a 45* angle, but you'll still have some problems.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 26, 2009, 04:20:56 pm
Ok that helps. They do have vanes. Like I said, I have got the material on the way to try to make a set of arrows. I ordered 40-45lb POC shafts. I also have some turkey feathers and so agate points. I'll have to hit the arrows section and get some help on putting it all together.

Thanks guys, Josh
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: agd68 on August 26, 2009, 06:26:12 pm
Let me ask, are you a right or left hand shooter and what is your draw length ?
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 27, 2009, 02:24:31 am
right handed 28 inches.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: agd68 on August 27, 2009, 04:57:41 pm
Your arrows are under spined for your bow and by rights should be hitting to the right. Those carbons are'nt too bad but 40-45lb POC will be way to weak and could break on release. You should have someone watch you shoot. You may be dropping your bow arm to see if you hit the target as you release.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: J05H on August 29, 2009, 06:53:09 am
I think you're right. I just re-figured it and came up with a different weight. 60-15 for 3/4" off of center-shot = 45 + 5  for 125gr. points = 50. I was figuring my bow at 55 but either I mis-weighed it or it picked up a little. Anyway, should I get 45-50 or 50-55. BTW my arrows contact the bow very close to the belly which throws the angle off even more, so that might have some bearing on your answer. I might just get some finished arrows of both and see which works best. Then go from there. Thanks for the help Agd.
 
Josh
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Kegan on August 29, 2009, 11:42:46 am
I always round the inner edge and outter edge of the bow handle for clearence- not only for better clearence, but also in case I torque the handle.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: agd68 on August 29, 2009, 09:02:35 pm
If it were me I'd go with the 50-55lb shafts,make a couple up at your usual length and try them. If they seem a little stiff add a heavier point or make the next couple a little longer. Good luck.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Pappy on September 02, 2009, 10:31:30 am
Canting the bow to the right for a right handed shooter will move the arrow to the right,high right if you don't shoot with the arrow right on top of the hand. Most self bows aren't center shot so if you look at the arrow on the string it is pointed to the left,the futher out the arrow gets the futher left it will shoot,canting to the right about 45degrees will usually take care of the problem,like Hillbilly said if the arrows spine is OK. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Dave 55 on September 12, 2009, 12:49:06 pm
If you cant your bow and everything else is right you should see your arrow going straight away from you.
Title: Re: Problem with form?
Post by: Kegan on September 12, 2009, 01:48:10 pm
If you cant your bow and everything else is right you should see your arrow going straight away from you.

I like to play around with different positions, including leaning way far forward and even leaning backwards. No matter what degree of cant, I still shoot the arrow in a straight line with the target like Dave said.