Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: sailordad on August 04, 2009, 12:05:27 am
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this is a bow that i have been working on since like last december.
it has taken so long because i got hooked un knapping in january,and havent really touched much wood since then.
it is a hickory stave that Dana sent me,thanks again .
its 62.5" ntn,1.75" wide at the fades,its pulling about 45# @ 23"(stiil need to recheck the weight)
i am looking to get about 50ish at 28"
i have been looking at the tiller and my eyes are going goofy and just want other eyes to help me out here.
the stave has some prop twist to it which in turn makes it tougher to see true tiller,one limb also has a knot in it so i left it stiff in the area of the knot(the one without the mark).
here are some pics
i put a black mark on both side of one limb right at the fades,i did this so i could remeber which limb was which
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5642/1000497a.jpg)
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9674/1000498y.jpg)
thanks for looking and please let me know what ya all think
peace,
tim
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Looks good to me
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Tim....the Bottom Limb looks a little stiffer than the Top...but thats not a bad thing at all....I think it looks pretty damned good myself
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ya i am thinking the limb witht the black mark will be the bottom
the more i look at it,the more it looks like thats what it wants to be.
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i think its good.
probably a little stiff i the half of the limbs? a little difficult to say on a pic..
greets
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I like the color of your kitchen! ;D Tiller looks good to me!
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Looks damn good to me, maybe the merest hint of a whisker could come off the end of the upper limb, but that's just my Catly view, as I like to see a whole limb working....oh no we're back onto the working tip discussion...
Sailor Mum is goin' to be mad if you shoot that fridge :D
Del
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Looks pretty good to me,I would take it on out a little more and see what you have. :)
Pappy
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What Pappy said work it out another 2" and see what it looks like, if anything a little more bend from the middle out.
Overall it looks good :) Remember to keep that hickory dry eh
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I'm with Dana. I think you are pulling a hinge in the lower limb, all the bend is in one spot and 2/3 of the limb is straight. It will cost you a couple of pounds, but might save you a bow.
piper
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If it is prop twisted check the tiller from both sides. That sides looks good to me. Just make sure the bending is starting at the end of the fads as that is a short stave for a 28 in. draw. The near handle area looks like it need more bending. Jawge
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I can't add anything to all the good advice except one small thing. It will make a slight difference on your string angle pulling with 4 fingers.
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Hey Sailordad!
Could you possibly tell where you draw this ellipses, maybe itīs in Paint?
Thats a pretty smart thing. I got a good exercise for my eyes on this page, thanks!
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TBOD
yes i use windows paint to do the elipse.
however i cant and wont take credit for it,that is something i learned from el destructo on this site.
thanks to him and that little trick i dont wreck nearly as many staves and most come out at or real close to the intended draw weight
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Gee....I am Honored Tim !!!
But remember that this is just a Visual Tool....Just like the Gizmo is....don't take it for a Definite when Tillering a Bow....I use it on both Stiff Handled and Bendy Handled Bows....just make sure that it is even with the center of the Handle Area....and it covers all the way to the Tips evenly....also make sure that You have the Bow as close to perfectly Vertical as possible...and don't Cant the Limbs at all either....then open the Picture in Paint...go to Image....Flip Image 90 degrees....then click on the Ellipse....select a Color for it....and then play with it till you figure it out.....works great for Me....you may not Like it....but it is definitely worth a Try.....JMO
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For me straight lines from the tips to the center of the handle work for me, and way easier to get in place. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and man I love skinned cats. ;D
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Well, I tried both methods. They are best used I guess at the end of the tiller, otherwise you spend more time in front of the computer then in the garage..
It's pretty tricky to get the bow vertical.. And you need a patient photographer.. If you managed to do it, it's pretty simple to apply the ellipse. On the other hand you can draw the ellipse in many different ways and maybe get confused doing it.. It probably just takes some time getting in right.
Danos style is much easier to accomplish and I prefer having the pictured flipped with the bow down and string up (opposite of tiller tree).
Thanks for tips!