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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: radius on July 26, 2009, 12:17:46 pm

Title: boning wood
Post by: radius on July 26, 2009, 12:17:46 pm
People still do this?

Does it have a significant effect on the durability of a bow?

TIA
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: medicinewheel on July 26, 2009, 12:38:55 pm
Yes, I do this and I'm sure it has an positive effect on the durability!
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: radius on July 26, 2009, 12:46:25 pm
the only bone i have here, i don't wanna use for that...shotglass do?
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: El Destructo on July 26, 2009, 12:53:16 pm
Shotglass.....Hickory Spoon Handle....my favorite.....Long Shank Screwdriver Shaft..anything that is small...round....smooth and hard should work just fine to compress the Wood Cells..........JMO
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: adb on July 26, 2009, 01:28:30 pm
I sometimes burnish the back of some selfbows, mostly yew. It compresses the cells, and I believe makes it less likely to lift a splinter. I especially burnish the back of yew selfbows on which I haven't chased a single ring.

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Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: Gordon on July 26, 2009, 02:21:40 pm
Scott,

I got your PM but could not respond because your Inbox is full. So here is my answer:

It wouldn't hurt to burnish the back, but be careful because yew heartwood is very soft -  don't overdo it. I often use a glass bottle for burnishing. If your stave has a lot of knots and you are not going to back it, I would keep the weight around 50# or less.


Gordon
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: radius on July 26, 2009, 02:40:07 pm
thanks for the hint, Gordon...i deleted a bunch of old messages!  As for the draw weight, too late.  It pulls ~58# at 28 right now.  I've been doing a buildalong for it, but now i just have to bone it and get some oil on there and i'll post some pics in this section.

I picked up some 5/16 birch dowel to bone it with, and i'll use the rest to make a bow rack.
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: adb on July 26, 2009, 02:41:13 pm
Also, make sure whatever you're using to burnish with is perfectly smooth, otherwise you'll get gouges. I personally use a burnishing tool. It's used to burnish the edge of scrapers and tool blades. It's very smooth, and hard.

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Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: Dauntless on July 26, 2009, 02:44:57 pm
I use an empty beer bottle and a good light source to see the spots I've missed.
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: medicinewheel on July 26, 2009, 02:56:25 pm
Also, make sure whatever you're using to burnish with is perfectly smooth, otherwise you'll get gouges. I personally use a burnishing tool. It's used to burnish the edge of scrapers and tool blades. It's very smooth, and hard.

I use the exact same tool; used bone before, but this is way better!
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: radius on July 26, 2009, 03:20:13 pm
ok so i just boned the thing and my shoulder is damn tired and i think it's good...next step:  do it again
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: woodstick on July 26, 2009, 03:29:32 pm
i use a small mason jar. works real good.
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: Adam Keiper on July 26, 2009, 06:54:04 pm
I burnish all my bows, back and belly, for three reasons really.  First, it creates an exceptionally smooth finish that can't be matched by sanding alone.  Next, I feel that it provides some protection against splinters raising.  And finally, the compressed cells form a natural moisture barrier that serves as a second level of defense beneath whatever coating you wipe or spray on top.  If you place a drop of water on the bare wood of an unburnished bow, you'll see that it soaks in on contact.  Do the same thing on a burnished bow and the water will bead.  Similarly, if you dye a burnished bow, the grain won't raise. 
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: radius on July 26, 2009, 07:14:30 pm
thanks Adam!  That's awesome advice.  I did bone the thing, twice, and yeah it gets like glass, especially the knots...
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 26, 2009, 09:45:40 pm
If you burnish a bow before staining the stain will not be absorbed. I used to burnish but don't anymore. I don't think it helps in holding a bow together. But it won't hurt. Jawge
Title: Re: boning wood
Post by: Adam Keiper on July 26, 2009, 10:18:15 pm
George, Are you referring just to true surface stains like Minwax?  Not dyes, right?  I use alcohol dyes like Rit and Fiebings exclusively (after burnishing).  I haven't found the penetration of those, at least, to be affected by burnishing. 

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