Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: part Cherokee on July 14, 2009, 06:47:03 pm
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oSiYo,(Hello)
Here are a few more TsaLaGi GaTliDa (Cherokee arrows) I made up.
Im hoping to take a deer this fall with a completely primitive TsaLaGi (Cherokee) setup.
Here are 3 of the 12 arrows i made to get ready for fall. These are fletched with Grey goose feathers,i have 1 more to make with goose feathers.The next four arrows will be fletched with turkey tail feathers,then ill make four more with turkey wing feathers.
What do you guys think.
WaDo,(thanks)
uNeGv TsuLa (White Fox)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa137/slowgo69/document-2-10.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa137/slowgo69/document-3-8.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa137/slowgo69/document-1-13.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa137/slowgo69/document-4-6.jpg)
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I love the way you got the goose feather to lay flat. Are they wing or tail feathers?
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Wing
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Nice job, White Fox and thanks for info.
Frnank
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nice arrows. I just fletched one the same way but with turkey tail and I love the way it flys. I might just start doing all my personnal arrows this way. It uses less resources and is just as effective and makes very distinctive arrows.
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I agree John they fly very well.
I have to admit i was suprised the 1st time i shot an arrow with this fletching. I really did'nt think it would work.
I dont know why though, If it did'nt work my people would have never adopted this style. lol
More than 1 way to skin a cat .
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Good looking arrows. Did you knap the points, too?
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oSiYo Hillbilly
I have to admit i did'nt make the points. That is at the top of my list though....
Learn to knap...check. I need some easy material to start with and a kit....
Then im moving on to bow making...lol
Not much else to learn. lol
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With a nice whitetail shed and a belt sander and a saw you can make all the tools you need in a few minutes time
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I know that sounds great but i dont have a whitetail shed.
You got one i can borrow? lol ;D
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o'si yo from Oklahoma , nice work , What are the shafts made of? A gi lv qua te ga tli da do na da go hv i
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Very nice arrows,they should do the trick.
Pappy
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oSiYo Staveshaver,
My shafts are made of cane.
Tsa la gi ga yo tli tsi wo ni.
Tsa la gi s hi wo ni?
WaDo
uNeGv TsuLa
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I hope you kill more than one deer this year my friend. I am so happy to see so many here returning to the old ways.
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oSiYo John
I have never killed a deer before so 1 sounds great to me!! lol
I'll take as many deer as the good Lord will send my way though ...as long as its with in legal limits..lol
I want my first deer to be a primitive kill like my ancient ancestors would have done it. That would make it it so much more special.
WaDo
UNeGv TsuLa
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If you want to learn to knap there is a knap in at flint ridge in central ohio labor day weekend. I live 10 miles from there and you can pitch a lodge at my place if you like
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Wow!
Thanks for the offer ill have to see what i can work out.
Matt
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Beautiful arrows! They really look great. I do like the goose feathers. I just finished a hickory shaft arrow (second attempt) and used crow wing feathers, two fletch. Looked pretty good but way to much spine for her 37# bow. The crow feathers didn't seem to hold up too well either. I too hope to take my first deer with self made two fletch arrow and stone tip. Good luck to you this fall.
Chasing Crow
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make sure you guys get lots of time in shooting those flint heads into a target. there is nothing worse than a bad shot on the perfect deer with no recovery and definite damage done to the animal (which now has an arrow in it you spent several hours making)
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John,
I surely agree with you. I won't use my bow unless I feel quite confident with my skill level. I am practicing whenever possible. I am totally new to bows and I need to work at it.
Chasing Crow
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you need to work with the arrows you intend to hunt with as well... in my opinion.... the arrow not arrows
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oSiyo,
I agree John . When you shoot primitive arrows each one flys different because there are so many variables between each arrow,unlike carbon or aluminum arrows. I try to find my two best flying arrows and practice with those two arrows the most. I would not take a shot at an awi (deer)with my Tsalagi (Cherokee)bow over 13 yards because thats out of my comfort zone. Before you shoot you have to ask yourself is it worth making a bad shot and that animal suffering for hours or even days because of it...no it most certainly is not.We have to be patient and not rush it, the perfect shot will come but you have to be ready.
Don't forget to ask the awi (deer)spirit for forgivness for killing it.You dont want to be running around with authritas do you?
I kid with all my friends who shoot compounds ,i tell them im lethal at 10 yards..lol.
Wado
Madu Unegv Tsula
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Im good with my recurve and sassafras arrows out to about 30-35..... with my cherokee "D" bow 15 yards is about right. Shooting off your nuckle is rough with no nock and a sinew string!
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Hey John
I was just wondering do you have Cherokee roots also?
Matt
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I am about as pale skinned as they come.....My father was adopted and on my mother's side my grandmother was half white and adopted by the local doctor's family in Seneca, Kansas. She was left on a door step so there is no tribal record to account for my family history.... however there is a reservation of Kickapoos and Potowatomies maybe 10 miles from there. I have many friends with Cherokee and Seneca blood but not really any that are involved in the old ways. I'm not Cherokee as far as I know but about every third person you meet claims to be Cherokee.
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part cherokee, i can make survival type points out of beer bottle bottoms, a big rock, and a big nail.
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Nice looking arrows.What are the shafts made of ?
The most important part of any point, is that it be very sharp.That's why I like obsidian and dacite. (Most knappable stone can be gotten sharp enough) It should be sharp enough to shave hair.It's not enough to punch holes in a deers lungs,you need to really cut them. (The front part of the lungs preferably) Quartering forward in from behind the near shoulder is a very lethal shot. (especially if the near,front leg is forward) Sharp point and shot placement is everything.
If you do things right and be patient,the shot will be given to you. (Probably not on every hunt, but; it will happen)
Frank
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WOW ..... WONDERFUL ARROWS .... Thanks for posting