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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bigcountry on June 01, 2009, 03:05:45 pm

Title: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: bigcountry on June 01, 2009, 03:05:45 pm
I see cow sinew for sale.  Was wondering if its as good as deer for wrappings and or even bow backings?
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: adb on June 01, 2009, 03:10:11 pm
My opinion is no. Cows don't do much running about. If, for no other reason, I think deer sinew is better because it adds extra medicine to your bow, especially if you've harvested it yourself.
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: bigcountry on June 01, 2009, 04:01:15 pm
That makes sense.  Just never seen it for sale before. 
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Far East Archer on June 01, 2009, 04:16:06 pm
I think it was Chinese and or Korean bow maker who use the cow sinew from back on hornbow.
Must not be bad, Ive used before, back sinew seemed better than leg~(did not have quality leg sinew available)
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: billy on June 01, 2009, 04:26:48 pm
I don't know if cow sinew is as good as deer sinew or not.  I can't see that much difference honestly, although there may be.  But if cow sinew is all you can get, then by all means use it.  Cow sinew is better than no sinew!! 
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: sailordad on June 01, 2009, 06:22:13 pm
i cant see it being bad,it serves the same purpose in either animal
it makes the legs move.its the muscle that is used in running
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 01, 2009, 09:01:12 pm
Cow sinew works quite well.  It's a bit harder to separate than Deer or Moose
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 02, 2009, 07:24:24 am
It's also a lot greasier than deer sinew.
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 02, 2009, 10:08:08 am
A test was done several years ago in one of the European countries, don't remember which one. These test, which I don't believe by the way, found that cow sinew was actually better than Deer sinew.  I do know that it is just as good as as Moose or Deer or Caribou sinew but as Steve says it is quite greasy.  When I have used it I washed it with dish soap and warm water before using it.  The leg tendons are what you want to use.  The big neck tendons are useless
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: bigcountry on June 02, 2009, 02:49:43 pm
Thanks guys for the replies,  I see folks say they degreased it.  I wonder if they degrease before they pound it?  I assume they do. 
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: shikari on June 02, 2009, 03:40:22 pm
Here is a link to processing the sinew http://www.turkisharchery.info/?p=videos.also  if you can texas longhorn sinew it would be better as they are 99% fat free cattle.
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 02, 2009, 05:24:17 pm
Actually you have to degrease after shredding the tendons
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: bigcountry on June 02, 2009, 05:47:36 pm
Actually you have to degrease after shredding the tendons

I didn't know that.  I never degreased deer sinew.  Wonder if I should be? 

So you wash off in dawn liquid and then rinse and dry out again? I guess it makes sense to leave it attached to a small piece of the tendon.
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 02, 2009, 09:24:36 pm
When you start pounding the cow tendons then you will see what I mean.  They are quite greasy.  Washing the tendons before pounding and shredding wouldn't do much for the fat that is inside the tendons and it would do much to the lumps of fat on the outside.  Once you have shredded the tendons, separate them into bundles.  Then you can wash them just before use with the dish soap and rinse well with warm water.  That way you can just dip them in the glue right after the wash and then lay the bundles onto the back of your bow
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: Don on June 02, 2009, 09:33:59 pm
This is good to know. I was wondering the same thing.
The cow tendons would be much longer then the deer.
Title: Re: Is Cow Sinew just as good as deer?
Post by: bigcountry on June 02, 2009, 11:22:57 pm
When you start pounding the cow tendons then you will see what I mean.  They are quite greasy.  Washing the tendons before pounding and shredding wouldn't do much for the fat that is inside the tendons and it would do much to the lumps of fat on the outside.  Once you have shredded the tendons, separate them into bundles.  Then you can wash them just before use with the dish soap and rinse well with warm water.  That way you can just dip them in the glue right after the wash and then lay the bundles onto the back of your bow

Thanks Marc.  Great info.  Good to know before commiting