Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Bushman452 on April 15, 2009, 11:23:24 pm
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Alligator gar are the biggest and toughest fish you can kill with a bow and arrow. Think about a bowfisherman taking on a 10 foot gator gar with a English longbow he made himself. You do you think will win.
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That's cool. I'm trying to come up with a primitive arrow and head that would work on one of those big rascals. Curtis Keller bow fishes for them in Texas and I'm trying to figure out a set up that could handle a fish like that. Is there a story that goes along with that pic?
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I don't know who he is, but the poor feller looks worn out.
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What an awsome fish, I don't think they get that big any more. Probably never get to live that long, altho I have seen them up to 5-6 ft . I do belive that a well placed arrow will kill about any thing even giant fish. Kenneth
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My word! It can't just be nostalgia of old photos that really gets me excited for a hunt, but modern photos just don't seem to have the same effect. There isn't the same tug on the soul, the draw to the simplistic and forever rustic longbow...
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Sorry folks but I have to say it....Looks photo shopped to me! ;D ;D
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Sorry folks but I have to say it....Looks photo shopped to me! ;D ;D
You could be right....might be hard to hang that Anal Fin so straight down on the Board....but if it is Shopped....they did a good job with the Shadows under the Plank and all
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As far as size is concerned,that is no big stretch.I've seen them myself that big and bigger.When I lived in south Texas,I fished Choke Canyon,which was a newly filled lake on the Frio river,and San Miguel creek.One day while sculling my canoe down a flooded sendera,I heard a commotion I was sure was being caused by a big bull gator.But is was'nt,it was a pair of the 2 biggest gar I've ever laid eyes on.One of the monsters came gliding out of the flooded brush and right under me.I know it was 12 feet long,and I could'nt begin to hazard a guess to it's weight.It was huge,with a girth about the size of an oil drum.As he came under me I jobbed him with my paddle.When he accelerated,he displaced so much water,I was nearly tossed out of the canoe.I went back to the area to try to find them again ,but they were gone by then. We also have huge gar in the Trinity river,some big enough,that if they roll near the boat,it'll nearly give you the willys.We don't have near as many as there used to be.It's big buisness guiding gator gar hunts. God Bless
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Curt Keller sent me a few pieces of skin from a 5" alligator gar. The scales would make excellent bleeder blades for primitive arrows and they covered the pieces of skin so a normal arrow with have a hard time penetrating unless you shot quartering away.
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I've seen this picture before in outdoor magazines, I think its real but the fish appears bigger than it is due to
"perspective" the gentleman is well behind the fish making him look small in relation to the fish. No matter what its a big
honkin gar :)
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Anoyone see Hill's video where he, Ben Pearson, and some others shoot alligator gar?
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i think a sturgoen would be tuffer toi get on bow gear than that gar would be.
for one you rarly ever see sturgoen close enough to the sirface to hit with a bow.
and if you did stick one it would probably take several people to drag it in.they are like trying to pull in a boulder.
the just sit on the bottom and dont moveunless they want to.
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We bowfish them quite a bit during the summer, but they don't get that big. We also have the smaller spotted gar. As tough as they look, it's not hard to put an arrow through them, and they are quite tasty if you like lobster.
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I've seen some six footers below PK dam in the Brazos. shot a four footer with bow but hit him behind the dorsal - that was a purty good fight :).
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That's cool. I'm trying to come up with a primitive arrow and head that would work on one of those big rascals. Curtis Keller bow fishes for them in Texas and I'm trying to figure out a set up that could handle a fish like that. Is there a story that goes along with that pic?
Yeah this fish was taken in Ohio and gator gar became extinct there I think.
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Eddie, I'd say what you have down there is the long nosed gar. They rarely get much over 5' long. The spotted gar is a lot smaller. The gar in that picture is a true alligator gar, and an extremely old one at that!
The biggest long nose I've killed is 50". I shot a 49"er the same day and I bet the 50"er was half again as heavy. One you start getting over 4' they start gaining girth instead of length.
I'm not positive, but I think about the only place you can find gator gar anymore is in Texas.
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Yep, Shannon, you are right. Got them mixed up.
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I just saw a special on cable tv, One old Texan had one mounted almost the size of this picture and swore that he had seenone go under his boat much bigger. This picture was shown on the special. Just goes to show ya everything is bigger in Texas.
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Especially the B.S. Stories!!!!
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Reminds me of the guys who were noodling catfish at P.K. with scuba gear. Every time they tried to get the big one out of an old car the fish rolled up the window.
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Eddie, I'd say what you have down there is the long nosed gar. They rarely get much over 5' long. The spotted gar is a lot smaller. The gar in that picture is a true alligator gar, and an extremely old one at that!
The biggest long nose I've killed is 50". I shot a 49"er the same day and I bet the 50"er was half again as heavy. One you start getting over 4' they start gaining girth instead of length.
I'm not positive, but I think about the only place you can find gator gar anymore is in Texas.
Actually Saw they are also hunted in Louisiana right in the middle of Cajun Country. You can be surprised of what you can might find in the bayous.
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We have some sort of gar here in Kansas and they are bait stealers I think they are spotted gar. I remember when we were growing up we were fishing the face of the dam at Fall River and my dad said he saw one with what appeared to be a 10lb catfish in his mouth sideways. I always thought he was stretching it some but maybe not. I also remember someone posting about the taste of gar being similar to lobster so I think this siummer I will have to find out. Danny
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they still get pretty big, and if your bow had enough punch and you had enough boat under you and enough back to hold on tho the thing and a good enough point and a hard enough head, i think you could do it pretty easly. ;D
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'specially that"Hard head" ;D ' Frank