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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bowbender68 on April 03, 2009, 08:59:24 pm

Title: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: bowbender68 on April 03, 2009, 08:59:24 pm
When you guys use a heat gun to put a little reflex in an osage stave, do you grease the wood first, or just put the heat gun to the bare wood?  If you grease, what do you use..crisco, etc.?
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: JustAim on April 03, 2009, 09:05:38 pm
l apply heat to the belly so l dont use any grease or anything. l just make sure l'm careful so l dont burn the wood. This is how l do it...l'm not sure if its the right way or not but it works for me.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: yazoo on April 03, 2009, 09:12:48 pm
I make sure the bow is coated with shellac, and spray a little oil on it to,
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: sailordad on April 03, 2009, 10:33:18 pm
i rub in crisco,add heat,more crisco,more heat,crisco,heat ya get the idea
i might use a little more crisco than others,but i like the smell of it in my work shop ;D
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: El Destructo on April 03, 2009, 10:38:48 pm
Yep....reminds me of Deep Fried Food............aint nothin better than some good old Artery Clogging Grease to make Your Stomach Start to Growl!!!!
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Olschool on April 03, 2009, 10:55:52 pm
Any kind of cooking oil will work, vegitable, peanut, olive (don't tell my wife  ::) )
The oil helps to keep the scorching down, and from drying out the wood too much
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: sailordad on April 03, 2009, 11:07:32 pm
Any kind of cooking oil will work, vegitable, peanut, olive (don't tell my wife  ::) )
The oil helps to keep the scorching down, and from drying out the wood too much

not too mention it help spread the heat more evenly and can also help prevent scorching(but ya still gotta keep the heat gun moving)
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 03, 2009, 11:14:46 pm
I usually have the back already coated with shellac.  I've used Crisco, and olive oil.  I prefer the olive oil it was a lot cleaner and didn't spread around to the back of the bow.  All I did was put a light coat on the belly and slowly brought up the temp of the wood.  If you work slowly you can get by with little oil.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Pat B on April 04, 2009, 12:39:52 am
I use olive oil with the heat gun. Any oil, grease, fat, etc will work.   
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Adam Keiper on April 04, 2009, 08:20:13 am
I keep the wood bare.  I used to use boiled linseed oil to keep the moisture in and help distribute the heat.  But the oil was a mess to remove later with sandpaper since it soaked into the wood, and it created issues if I wanted to glue a snakeskin backing on.  I haven't noticed any ill affects by heating the bare wood.  The wood will scorch either way if you get it too hot. 

If I think I need to blast the wood that badly to make a serious bend, then it's time to just use steam.  Dry heat is great for adding reflex, bringing a mildly off-kilter handle alignment straight, and other subtle corrections.  But to remove serious kinks, make major bends, or add reflexed or recurves tips, then steam is much safer as the wood isn't nearly as prone to tearing apart.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 04, 2009, 10:09:50 am
I own a lot of nightmarishly crooked osage and use my heat gun a bunch, never use oil.

I use a reflector to evenly distribute heat.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/aluminumreflector.jpg)

I also wrap the bend to retain the heat after the bend is made. I do this on initial attempts on thick areas like handles.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/insulatedaluminum.jpg)
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: DCM on April 04, 2009, 10:12:59 am
Two means to the same end may be a) oil b) use moderate heat for a longer period.  Idea being you want the inner wood to get hot too, without scorching the outside.  That was my biggest mistake starting out.  Now I challenge myself to get the correction I want with the least amount of "color."  I think it can make wood brittle.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Ryano on April 04, 2009, 12:03:55 pm
Yep, I'm on the no oil crew also. Tried it both ways and see no need for it.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: Timo on April 04, 2009, 08:09:33 pm
Gotta side with the last few posters here.No oil for me.
Title: Re: Heat Bending Osage
Post by: knap_123 on April 05, 2009, 12:01:41 am
no stick spray for me. i think it adds to the heated color as well when heated.