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Title: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Ryano on February 19, 2009, 11:27:45 pm
You ever seen osage with no sap wood ? I met a fellow the other day that wants to build a osage bow bad. He brought me three staves from a tree he cut here locally in pa. (Osage around here is rare) One half of the tree apears to be semi normal with around 3/8" or so sapwood however the staves from the other half of the tree have absoloutley no sap wood on them. I'm talking remove the bark and you got a yellow heart wood ring.....How weird is that?
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2009, 12:56:59 am
Is that side of the tree dead? Is there a cambium under the bark?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Pappy on February 20, 2009, 07:13:22 am
Never seen that unless it was old and dead and all the sap wood was rotted off.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: adb on February 20, 2009, 09:46:03 am
I recently cut a standing ash tree, and after splitting, I realized it had no sapwood. Because I cut it in early winter, I couldn't tell for sure if it was alive or not. Obviously, it must have been standing dead, which is probably the case with the osage.
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Ryano on February 20, 2009, 03:40:28 pm
Well it was cut and split last summer and kept in a heated garage so it is pretty dry. Like I said one half of the tree appears to have 3/8" or so sapwood. The other half nothing? just bark and heart wood. My question is do think its safe to just chase first ring or shoud we take it down a ways?
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2009, 03:49:55 pm
I guess you'll have to decide that by examining the wood. Hard to tell from here! ;D
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Post by: mitchman on February 20, 2009, 04:25:15 pm
dude where did you find an osage tree i Pa.
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: adb on February 20, 2009, 04:26:51 pm
Maybe the tree was damaged on the no sapwood side? Or wind stressed?
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Post by: Hillbilly on February 20, 2009, 04:34:52 pm
Never saw that before.
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Ryano on February 20, 2009, 05:19:41 pm
I don't know guys.... ???
Mitch, I cut all my osage in pa but not around here....its rare as all heck up here. Down in the south western corner of the state there's some area's that have quite a bit of it. Thats all I can tell you, I won't give away my secret cutting area's.... >:D
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Timo on February 20, 2009, 06:32:40 pm
Ryan, I had a tree such as you speak of. It was just for a short ways down the stave,maybe 12".The bark looked normal but that was all.Upon taken it down the sapwood kinda feathered out, in that area. I figured that it was some kind of damage and I cut it before it completely healed/scarred over?
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2009, 08:08:41 pm
an old buck rub? :o
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Timo on February 20, 2009, 08:12:19 pm
Be a cool name for a bow?
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: yazoo on February 20, 2009, 09:40:37 pm
I work a lot of staves that will have a ring of half sapwood and half heartwood ,does the heartwood only side blend end with a sapwood ring on the other side of the tree?
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: cowboy on February 20, 2009, 10:26:59 pm
That sounds wierd Rhino ;D. Prolly good wood nonetheless - osage is better ya know ::) hehehehe..
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Ryano on February 21, 2009, 09:01:08 am
Well the stave is about 8 foot long and 4" wide curently and there's not a lick of wood colored wood on it. So it would have had to have been on heck of a buck rub!  :o

Not sure how the other staves look Mike We havent peeled the bark off them yet.
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Badger on February 21, 2009, 09:05:02 am
Ryan, I buy osage from all over the country, I haven't seen zero yet but I have seen less than 1/8". Pa, has some great osage even though it is not common there. Steve
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: DanaM on February 21, 2009, 12:33:39 pm
Pictures Ryan Pictures, you know we like pictures ;) :)
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: shamus on February 22, 2009, 11:49:50 am
PICTURES!   :)
Title: Re: Ever seen osage with ?
Post by: Ryano on February 22, 2009, 02:53:13 pm
I don't have the wood here or I would take pictures.  :(  I sent it home with him to work on.  ;)