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Title: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: coyote pup on February 18, 2009, 11:01:04 am
What north american bow woods work best in narrow profiles, such as 1" to 1.25" at the widest point of the bow? Length is not really important.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Pat B on February 18, 2009, 11:13:11 am
Osage and yew come to mind for narrow profile bows.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: PeteC on February 18, 2009, 11:21:40 am
Osage!!! I've built quite a few hunting weight bows 1" or less, in width ,at the widest part of the limb.You can pull it off with whitewoods ,such as hickory,or hophornbeam,(well seasoned and dry) ,with a good tiller,which utilizes every inch of lenght ,and, heat treating the limbs.Check out the"little hickory bow D-bow",I posted last week,it's 1 1/8" at it's widest. God Bless
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: whitewoodshunter on February 18, 2009, 12:18:35 pm
As already stated Osage, Hickory Yew and hophornbeam
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: DanaM on February 18, 2009, 12:25:50 pm
I guess it depends to a certain extent on what the draw length and will be. Also design is an issue
a long ELB design is by nature narrow and many woods will work.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Hillbilly on February 18, 2009, 12:43:26 pm
I would also add black locust and red mulberry as excellent woods for narrow bend-through-the-handle designs. I have made good narrow bows from both.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: JackCrafty on February 18, 2009, 11:53:14 pm
Narrow bows are difficult for me to make but are fascinating.  I've tried all sorts of wood and juniper has worked well for me.  I'm sure yew is good too (as already mentioned).  I've tried a couple narrow osage bows but they seems sluggish after a while.  Also, in the dry weather of West Texas my narrow bow designs are taking a beating.  I've broken three narrow bows in the last six months.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Gordon on February 19, 2009, 02:23:08 am
Osage and Yew.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Badger on February 19, 2009, 04:08:33 am
Osage is probably about the narrowest profile domestic wood we have because it is about the heaviest. I think design has more to do with the profile than the wood although wood does make a difference. A 72" long white wood bow bending through the handle and drawing 55# would almost never need to be much more than 1 1/8" wide. A 62" whitewood bow with a stiff handle should almost always be closer to 2" wide. I used to make my osage bows at about 1 1/4 for 62" but now have gone to 1 1/2" . I htink design is the bigger issue. Steve
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: shamus on February 19, 2009, 08:13:50 am
From my experience: osage and yew.

Red mulberry would not work so well in a 1-1.25" profile. It needs to be made a smidge wider than osage.

thoughts of mine on bow design: http://analogperiphery.blogspot.com/2008/05/osage-flat-bow-dimensions.html

hope that helps.



Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: GregB on February 19, 2009, 08:46:48 am
Already a lot of good suggestions. I've seen a good dry piece of hickory make a fine narrow bow!  :)
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Hillbilly on February 19, 2009, 08:56:19 am
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Red mulberry would not work so well in a 1-1.25" profile. It needs to be mad a smidge wider than osage.


Mulberry actually works great in a narrow D-bow or ELB design. I've made two or three like that that are good bows. The last bow I tillered out was a mulberry stacked belly a little less than 1 1/4" wide at the widest point, about 62" long, and pulling around 55# at 26". It shoots great, not much set, good feeling bow. Locust likes this design, too-but with a flat belly. I've found that the TBB design chapter is a good starting point, but I don't take it as the gospel until I've tried something.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: coyote pup on February 19, 2009, 09:13:10 am
Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions.  :)
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: shamus on February 24, 2009, 07:21:48 pm
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Mulberry actually works great in a narrow D-bow or ELB design.

The Thompson Brothers thoguht the exact same thing. :)

good food for thought, Hillbilly. I might just try that on one of my mulberry staves. :)
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: adb on February 24, 2009, 07:47:51 pm
osage
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Kegan on February 24, 2009, 08:11:29 pm
Just finished a white oak semi-ELB. Flat, heavily tempered belly, about 70#. Didn't take alot of set, and 1 1/4" at the widest. With 5/16" tips, it's my sweetest shooting bow yet.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: mullet on February 24, 2009, 09:35:34 pm
 I have to back Hillbilly and the Thompson Brothers up on Mulberry. I've seen and have some from N.C., and the stuff we have in Fl is a lot denser and is almost as yellow as Osage.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: brian melton on February 24, 2009, 11:52:55 pm
Badger,

                 You forget about ocean spray???
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Hillbilly on February 25, 2009, 01:57:03 pm
Eddie, the NC stuff I gave you is good wood, though-I've made a few out of the same tree. It's bright yellow when it's freshly worked, but it ages to a yellowish brown. You can leave some sapwood on the back and make an ELB that looks almost like a yew bow.
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: nickf on February 25, 2009, 02:29:25 pm
any wood with an s/g higher of .75 ? :)
blackthorn and hawthorne, oceanspray. All very heavy woods, but in small sizes,  they give gorgeous narrow character bows
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: gutpile on February 25, 2009, 02:55:07 pm
what nobody says Ipe....probably the absolute best narrow bow wood available...gut
Title: Re: Best woods for narrow profiles?
Post by: Hillbilly on February 25, 2009, 04:20:49 pm
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what nobody says Ipe....probably the absolute best narrow bow wood available...gut


Gut, he was asking about native North American woods. Ipe is a great narrow bow wood, but it ain't from around here. :)