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Title: I love pin nocks!
Post by: servicebeary on January 22, 2009, 12:51:49 pm
Why am I one of the few that prefers pin nocks?  Just curious since they seem are so "primitive" and attractive.  Low mass too
          -nick
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Pat B on January 22, 2009, 01:42:05 pm
You and Kegan!   I like pin nocks but only use them on bows that look better with pin nocks.
Side nocks are traditional on some early bows but few use them either.    Pat
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Denham Archer on January 22, 2009, 01:58:57 pm
My favorite nock, especially on flatbows!
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: recurve shooter on January 22, 2009, 03:00:48 pm
on the 2 bows i have made i put one reg. nock and one pin.
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: JackCrafty on January 22, 2009, 03:23:48 pm
Yep, I like pin knocks too (got a couple bows with 'em) but I prefer side nocks.  Pin knocks have the advantage of being light in weight.  I don't know why more people don't use them.
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: knap_123 on January 22, 2009, 03:29:56 pm
i dont the difference, can yall post pics for a newbie please
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: El Destructo on January 22, 2009, 03:36:41 pm
                                                 Yep....they are my Favorite too....cant you tell!!!

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Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Justin Snyder on January 22, 2009, 03:41:53 pm
They are my favorite too. When they are the right style to match the bow.  ;D
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: servicebeary on January 29, 2009, 07:38:46 pm
ahh, I see, so I'm not as alone as I thought :D You know, I've got a question for the bow history buffs.  Did the Native Americans use anything but pin nocks prior to western contact?  Or did all the prehistoric bows have pin nocks?  or the vast majority anyhow?  I wonder if either are considered to be superior, or earlier technology?  Or does it just have more to do with the strength of the particular wood?
               thanks for all the fine responses, nick
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Traxx on January 29, 2009, 08:59:40 pm
Ya mean,theres another kind?LOL
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: AKAPK on January 29, 2009, 11:32:42 pm
Those pin noks are really great, I like the recurve.PK sure would like to see more pin nok pics from folks.
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: servicebeary on January 30, 2009, 01:19:23 am
I'll be posting some as my first bow as soon as I find the darn cable for my camera >:(
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: DanaM on January 30, 2009, 07:36:35 am
ahh, I see, so I'm not as alone as I thought :D You know, I've got a question for the bow history buffs.  Did the Native Americans use anything but pin nocks prior to western contact?  Or did all the prehistoric bows have pin nocks?  or the vast majority anyhow?  I wonder if either are considered to be superior, or earlier technology?  Or does it just have more to do with the strength of the particular wood?
               thanks for all the fine responses, nick

I think one of the reasons early man made bows with pin nocks is it was simple to fashion a pin nock with stone tools, don't think chainsaw files were invented yet :D
They also used wraps of rawhide or sinew to build up an area at the tip that the string would set against.
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: FlintWalker on January 30, 2009, 11:16:01 pm
Almost all of my bows have sort of a "modified" pin nock.  From the string groove out to the very tip of the limb it's very slim.

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Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: AKAPK on January 31, 2009, 04:39:55 am
Thats Pretty nice pins there Sawfiler Can I try that design It looks copywrited. :)
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Hillbilly on January 31, 2009, 10:22:39 am
Nice work, everybody. Shannon, those look great. Ol' Pat B makes some mean modified pins, too. El Destructo, I love the paintjob on that recurve-don't be surprized if you see one that looks a lot like that some time in the future..... >:D >:D  :)
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: troutbum76 on February 01, 2009, 07:11:17 pm
is it safe to use pin nocks on a shorter bow 52in if your draw length. is shorter say 25in? i am assuming that what i see wrapped is sinew maybe to reinforce the area below the nock? do you keep the same dimensons basically for pin nock as for side nocks 3/4 or 1 in down from tips? How wide is nocks? don't mean to hijack thread just think they look cool and want to know more.
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: servicebeary on February 01, 2009, 11:36:33 pm
mine are right about 1/4 x 1/4 and 1/2" long, but that's for osage.  If designed properly, they are tough as other styles IMO..  I could shorten mine to 1/3" long pretty easy and may do so.  I just started a bow that's going to be 55#ish with 1/4 wide x 3/8 deep pin nocks and it's going to be 46-48in with a longer than 25in. draw.  If you're really careful not to overstress the nocks during tillering, or just leave the tips thick until tillered you can run em really tiny, and with sinew reinforcing the tips you can have even less mass.  If you feel like using sinew you could just wrap some sinew around a micro tip and hook the string on that.  I'm considering that on my next bow. sooo light, soo fast ;D   -although it's tough to beat those killer nocks of Shannon's.  good luck, -nick
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: servicebeary on February 02, 2009, 12:21:35 am
hmm, how wide should I make my 46-48" D bow? 1 5/8 maybe?
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: nickf on February 07, 2009, 06:59:46 pm
I really like pin nocks, as long as they're made narrow ;)
love the 'modified' pin nock sawfiler!

Nick
Title: Re: I love pin nocks!
Post by: Kegan on February 07, 2009, 09:32:15 pm
Hahaha, like Pat said, I like pin nocks  ;D. Lately I've been trying side nocks, for looks, but still use them alot when a bow is just for "work", or when it's shorter than I normally use.