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Title: quartz points pics....
Post by: billy on January 08, 2009, 12:24:00 pm
Here's something you don't see everyday....some quartz points made by a modern knapper.  I know most people don't use this stuff since there is alot better stone available for knapping, but Archaic people here in my home state of Georgia used it a lot.  And since I'm a practicing primitive, I figured I better learn to make tools out of the same stuff the old guys used.  I made these from various quartz and quartzite that I've picked up over the years.  It's definitely a lot more difficult to chip than stuff like flint or obsidian or glass, but once you learn the technique it's really fun to knap because you're making tools out of some really crappy, tough stone and it's actually working!  Don't look down on this stuff though...flaked edges are pretty damn sharp, especially the white/clear quartz.  Besides, if this economy keeps going the way it is, being able to work tough, local stone like this might come in very handy sooner rather than later!  Hahaha...

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Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: Hillbilly on January 08, 2009, 12:53:05 pm
Nice work, Billy, and I know exactly how hard that stuff is to work. Quartz/quartzite is the only knappable thing we have up here, so I'm like you. I love working the stuff even if it is frustrating. Looks like you have about the same flavors down there that we have here, except it's really hard to find the clear/white streaked stuff here. I'd like to have a truckload of that.

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Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: DanaM on January 08, 2009, 02:32:06 pm
Lots of good sized quartz up on lake Superiors shore, Most are smaller than a fist and rounded smooth from erosion.
Think these will work? Guess I need to get me a few bis ol clubs eh :)

Nice points billy.
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: EndoftheWorldSurvivor on January 08, 2009, 04:27:06 pm
so billy has the same idea as me. economic collapse, only the ones with primitive skills flourish. sounds like an idea to me.lol
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: billy on January 08, 2009, 05:20:35 pm
Hey Dana,

Not really sure if the quartz up your way will work...you'll just have to bust into some of it and see.  And yeah, I'm preparing for economic collapse...BIG TIME.  Just read that Obama is telling everyone to brace for some real, real bad times ahead.  Gas shortages, no food at the grocery store, nobody has money....sounds like the beginnings of all-out anarchy!  Put your goggles on folks, we're all gonna get flushed down the toilet with the turds! 

My mom is preparing too...she's buying guns and lots of ammo....and she just turned 70 the other day!  Hahaha..... 
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: hawkbow on January 08, 2009, 05:31:55 pm
good job Billy. those should do the trick on a mastadon if you run across one  ;D ;) Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: Blacktail on January 08, 2009, 08:20:02 pm
thats some great chipping guys....i dont know if we have any sizeable quarts here in oregon...i think there is but where i dont know....this might be a new rock to look into for me...can the quartz be heat treated...thanks john
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: PeteDavis on January 08, 2009, 09:18:47 pm
Great, real stuff. Working my way up to ABO and quartzite. Good job!

Y'all need to stop talking collapse.....if it really does, remember to unload your weapons before entering soup kitchen.

PD

 
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: Hillbilly on January 08, 2009, 10:16:14 pm
Dana, Paul (Ehkahk) gave me a chunk of killer waxy quartzite several years ago that he picked up somewhere around Lake Ontario. I'd love to get hold of some more of that.
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: bogman on January 09, 2009, 12:21:35 am
Those are some nice points posted; it's rough to work with.
We've got lots of quarts here in CT. You still have to look for it though.
As far as working with it...it's some tough stuff and mostly freeze fractured.
I have only gotten a couple of small points out of it.
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: EndoftheWorldSurvivor on January 09, 2009, 02:49:02 am
i havent seen alot of quartz here in AL. Tons of flint though. does quarts make good spearheads?
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: leapingbare on January 09, 2009, 04:13:31 am
Nice Work Billy..
 Hey I'd be willing to swap you some good T.N Chert for some of that clear/white streaked stuff.
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: ricktrojanowski on January 09, 2009, 06:55:46 am
Nice work Billy,  We have a bunch of quartz on the beaches around here.  At least that is what I think it is.  And your Mom isn't the only one stockpiling ammo. ;D
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: DanaM on January 09, 2009, 09:10:54 am
Dana, Paul (Ehkahk) gave me a chunk of killer waxy quartzite several years ago that he picked up somewhere around Lake Ontario. I'd love to get hold of some more of that.

I will see what I can find this summer Steve, a bit nippy on the lakeshore right now ;) Also will be looking for some slag from the old pig iron factories.
Will let ya know if I find any good stuff :)
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: leapingbare on January 09, 2009, 10:15:34 am
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can the quartz be heat treated...thanks john
Blacktail.. Quartz likes to blowup with heat :) and if ya get a piece to make it. i dont think it will change any.
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: billy on January 09, 2009, 12:20:19 pm
End of the world,

Yeah, quartz makes good spear points, though it's a bit brittle.  I think flint is easier to work and also stronger.  When I was in Montgomery, AL last year I found some absolutely beautiful milky quartz that was so pure it was like working white glass.  I think the ancients used a lot of it and it's called Tuscaloosa gravel.  It's usually in gravel form (hence the name) and is usually kinda small, but I found egg-sized pebbles that I was able to make points out of. 
Title: Re: quartz points pics....
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on January 09, 2009, 12:45:11 pm
some nice looking abo points from a tough material. good job on them billy- Ryan