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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: mullet on January 03, 2009, 08:30:55 pm

Title: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 03, 2009, 08:30:55 pm
 Sometimes you just have to quit.I left that last little flat spot. I couldn't bring myself to break those ears and anyway you won't see it on an arrow. It is still one inch wide and the ears are sharp, it's legal.
  The other two are for Bob Ocseola for turkey season , still have some more to go. The Tanto was a pi$$*^. I was grinding the Bamboo handle to shape when my 12" sander snatched it out of my hand and bounced it off the roof of my shop. It didn't break then, and I almost caught it but it hit the leg on my Band saw. :'( :'(

 I'll post another knife I made today and two more points tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: FlintWalker on January 03, 2009, 09:09:45 pm
Dangit Man!  Don't you just hate when stuff like that happens. >:(  On the bright side, the points are beautiful. ;D
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Post by: mullet on January 03, 2009, 09:34:35 pm
 Thanks Shannon, yea I was afraid that 60 grit might grab it . But I couldn't bring myself to hang onto the sharp blade real tight.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: FlintWalker on January 03, 2009, 09:59:43 pm
Next time. Take you some good 'ol duct tape and tape around the blade so's ya won't cut yerself, then ye can hang on real tight. ;)
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Post by: cracker on January 03, 2009, 11:21:11 pm
That's tough luck Eddie. Time to break out the super glue.Ron
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 03, 2009, 11:57:32 pm
 Too late, Ron. Already made another point out of it. :)
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Post by: koan on January 03, 2009, 11:59:35 pm
Man, thats a heartbreaker :'(....Brian
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Post by: leapingbare on January 04, 2009, 12:11:19 am
LOL.. sorry Eddie.. i had to laugh..  good lookin knapping.. show us a HC point!
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Post by: El Destructo on January 04, 2009, 12:50:05 am
I wonder of the Split garden Hose would work on Flint Blades.....Sure has saved me with the Stainless Steel Blades I have been making....might want to give it a try....I just split it and tape it on....I have tried just Duct Tape....and still got cut....thats why I tried the Hose
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: stickbender on January 04, 2009, 01:45:52 am

     Oh, how well I know the feeling.  I had a very nice point going on a piece of agate, that was in the bucket, and as I looked at it, I saw that , well hell, I can get two points out of this if I just notch it right here, and ......everything was going great, and it broke above the notch!  Well, I have one small point, and one medium point.  If I hadn't tried to get two points, I would have had a great point, about 2 1/2-3 inches long.  Oh poopee! >:(  I was trying to make the finished point that I made out of the soft white stuff, just a little bit lies triangular, and it was going great, and ...... then I noticed that one of the nice and sharp ears wasn't there! >:(  Oh well.  Now, I will leave well enough alone, and I will not try to get two points, in stead of one nice one.  I wil wait till I am somewhat better than I am now. ;D  At least you were able to salvage a point out of it.

                                                                             Wayne
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 04, 2009, 12:31:46 pm
 Jesse, Don't feel bad, my wife laughed, too. The pictures of the two points together, The one on the left is Horse Creek.
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Post by: leapingbare on January 04, 2009, 02:23:32 pm
oh cool !
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 04, 2009, 04:51:16 pm
 Here's the save on the broken one. And since Jesse was asking about fluting, I went ahead and fluted both sides with a pressure flaker.

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Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: El Destructo on January 04, 2009, 05:50:56 pm
Nice Save on the Blade Eddie.......Hey I got some Nails in an Envelope just waiting to send out to You.......
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 04, 2009, 09:58:04 pm
 What ya waiting on? ;) just kidding. Thanks.
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Post by: Justin Snyder on January 05, 2009, 01:18:46 am
I'm glad I'm not the only one that waits until I'm done to break my points or knives.  Good looking work.  Justin
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 05, 2009, 09:46:14 pm
 Thanks Justin.
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Post by: leapingbare on January 06, 2009, 11:26:43 am
Nice Save Eddie..
 I dont have a problem fllooting.. i just dont know how to run the floot to the tip of the point without end snapping it.. like Folsom and comberlands.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 06, 2009, 01:10:31 pm
 I've watched Claude do it a couple of ways. He always leaves the point flat and sets it up in are carved out wooded platform. He then prepares and strikes the nipple as most people do. the other way is to use a little pressure vice, forgot the name, but it's like a little lever and you just keep applying pressure until it pops.
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Post by: leapingbare on January 06, 2009, 03:37:33 pm
I have seen the vice.. but it dose not leave a floot flake scare thats typical of a original point.

 I do have one idea.. i could make a preform 3'' longer then i need it.. so lets say 6'' total.. than knock off one good float over 1/2 down the point. than knock the 2nd float off hard enough to end snap it. take my pressure flaker and touch it up.. and wala got a 3'' Folsom.. thats the plan. i dont have a pice of rock large enough over here so I'll have to wait till i get bake to try this.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: Hillbilly on January 06, 2009, 04:01:39 pm
Jesse, part of the thing I was talking about is to set the tip up on a bevel toward the side you're fluting. Then when you put the tip on a block of antler or hardwood and smack the nipple, it's almost like bipolar flaking. Most original Folsoms are a lot smaller than Clovis points-like 2-3" long.
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Post by: D. Tiller on January 06, 2009, 05:15:15 pm
Hey Eddie, where ya get the obsidian? Looks really nice stuff.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 06, 2009, 09:13:35 pm
 Some came from Glass Buttes, compliments of Brian Melton. The other came from Justin, Utah. They are both good. I found the purple streaks in the stuff from Justin.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: leapingbare on January 06, 2009, 10:37:08 pm
Hillbilly can you show me at the classic?
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Post by: EndoftheWorldSurvivor on January 07, 2009, 12:11:22 am
has anyone made a primitive saw to split antler? any other primitive ways to split antler appreciated as well.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: Hillbilly on January 07, 2009, 08:48:05 am
Jesse, I'll try-I sure haven't mastered fluting folsoms yet, either. I can get a decent Clovis now and then, but I'm sure no expert on fluting. I'm positive I  can show you how to roll-fracture one into two pieces on the second flute. ;D I'm like you, jig fluting just don't do it for me-I like to try to figure out how to do it like they did it. EOTWS, the usual primitive method of splitting antler is to soak it until it gets soft, then score it with a burin flake and split it.
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Post by: cowboy on January 07, 2009, 09:13:50 am
Nice job on the points Eddie. Too bad on the knife but nice save though, I'll have to get around to some fluting one of these days.
Title: Re: Pucker time.
Post by: mullet on January 07, 2009, 04:03:27 pm
  thanks Paul.
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Post by: EndoftheWorldSurvivor on January 07, 2009, 06:14:13 pm
thanks hillbilly any more tips on knapping?