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Title: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 06:06:31 pm
Well this bow started with a great Christmas gift from Dana last year. He sent me a nice hard maple stave. Thanks Dana.
The stave sat around until the  TN. classic and I brought it along to work on.
Pappy helped me lay it out and even cut the shape on his bandsaw. I was going to tiller it out there but lost my drive after news my dog in the pic bellow got hit by a car and died while I was at the classic.
Then summer came and I was too busy to work it but little by little It started turning into a bow. I had to do a lot of heat adjusting and tempered the belly as well.
I posted lots of pictures and got great advice from all of you on the message board so I give you all credit as well Thanks.
Ok  Here it is 66"ntn 1 3/4 wide till mid limb then tapers to 1/2" tips pulls 54#@28" and holds reflex when unstrung. Shoots hard and fast. Im a fan of maple after this one. Its a fun wood to work. dyed with rit mixed with acetone. sealed with spar urethane.   Thanks for looking                              Jesse
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Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Scowler on December 28, 2008, 06:18:27 pm
Great looking bow.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: islandpiper on December 28, 2008, 06:23:41 pm
Now, THAT'S A PRETTY BOW!!   Looks nice just sitting there and the full draw pics make my pulse pick up a couple of beats.   I love the knocks, very nice.   Dang funny looking grass......here in Louisiana it's green, not white.   

Keep up the good work.   piper
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Auggie on December 28, 2008, 06:26:58 pm
Impressive! Well done dude!
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Post by: DanaM on December 28, 2008, 06:51:16 pm
Jesse ya done that stave proud, she really came out nice, tiller is as nice as I've ever seen, very well done on the stain and finish.
Then to top it off ya took great pictures :) I will get some more of that Yooperwood to ya when I come down yer way for surgery.
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Post by: mullet on December 28, 2008, 07:01:39 pm
  OUTSTANDING! That's a fine looking bow, Jesse. Tiller looks dead on and that is a cool looking dye job. Color matches the quiver. ;)
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Canoe on December 28, 2008, 07:07:38 pm
Howdy Jesse,

As others have stated, you turned a darn good stave into a darn good bow - be proud!

So, can you talk a little more about the stain job on that bow?   Rit dye and Acetone?  Did you simply substitute acetone for the water on the directions off the box of Rit?  Or, did you use less acetone, or...?

Thank for the info, and happy holidays,
Canoe
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 07:16:35 pm
Thanks for the great remarks guys.
Dana-- Thanks again for the wood stop by anytime with more ;)
Piper I still gotta get up and say hi to your buddy in iron river
Eddie I thought you would notice the quiver. YoU made it. I use it all the time
conoe I was looking for alcohol which I normally use but couldnt find any so I used acetone. I didnt read the pack or measure just made a paste and brushed it on. its cocoa brown rit powder.   
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: David Long on December 28, 2008, 08:19:46 pm
Beautiful bow man. Really lovely. Maple is dang nice wood to work with and it's easy on the eyes when you're at the "tiller". Dave
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 09:07:28 pm
Thanks Dave. First time I played around with maple for a bow but not the last. No nasty smelling dust like the ipe Ive been using. When I cooked the belly it smelled good enough to eat ;D
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 28, 2008, 09:48:19 pm
Great looking bow! Well done. Jawge
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: in da u.p. on December 28, 2008, 09:51:54 pm
     very nice bow Jesse.  i really like the finish. I'll have to try that on my next bow. what exactly is heat treating? Is it used for straightening the limbs? Keep up the good work. B.T.w. are you close to the U.P?  you cant be far w/ the white stuff all around.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: koan on December 28, 2008, 10:01:34 pm
Jesse, that is one sweet bow there, love the quiver too....Brian
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: sailordad on December 28, 2008, 10:07:36 pm
real nice bow,tiller looks to be near dead on,love the color too.
boy is this gonna be a tough month to vote for BOM :o :-\

hey i gots all kinds of dat der white stuff eh,and i aint even close to da u.p. eider eh. ;D
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: juniper junkie on December 28, 2008, 10:09:06 pm
great job! like the dye. tiller is excellent.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Keenan on December 28, 2008, 10:13:26 pm
 I second what JJ just said. Very nice bow Jesse. Dye job is great and the tiller is spot on.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 10:13:50 pm
Thanks Jawge. You've given me a lot of help.
in da u.p. Thanks-- I rubbed some oil on the wood and used a heat gun to take some propeller twist out and to align the tips. Also cooked the belly a bit to stiffen it up. Thats a real brief description there is a bit more to it but not much :)  Im about 40min south of menominee MI.
Thanks Koan
Thanks sailor Dad
Thanks juniper junkie
Thanks Keenan
 very much appreciated. You guys keep it up and Im gonna need a new hat. :D
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: sailordad on December 28, 2008, 10:25:21 pm
that there bow may just get you that new hat ;)
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 10:29:40 pm
I doubt that but thanks ;D 
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Okie on December 28, 2008, 10:42:44 pm
Wow! What everyone else has said too. That is a beauty. I'm working on an Osage recurve right now and was thinking about dying it with Rit. I think you've talked me into it now. Does Osage take dye well?
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 11:15:49 pm
Thanks Okie1 I never tried to dye osage  it has such a great natural color. Try on a scrap piece.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Denham Archer on December 28, 2008, 11:24:34 pm
Good job Jesse.  Nice lookin' bow!  I'm sorry about your friend.  I went through that last May.  I had to put my Ol' Wilbur down.  Funk is right.  Again, very good job!
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 28, 2008, 11:34:05 pm
Thanks Denham Archer. yup I hear ya. At first I didnt want another dog.  Know I have 2 pups one is from Pappy's dog Hanna.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2008, 11:58:07 pm
Every time I think I may have a chance, some Troll comes along and screws it up!  ;)  Incredible bow Jesse. The tiller, the color, the finish...and she was definitely seduced into the beautiful bow she is.    Pat
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: koan on December 29, 2008, 12:00:55 am
I thought Jesse was a CheeseHead, not a Troll, lol..I cant keep the U.P. guys straight ;D....Brian
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 29, 2008, 01:31:00 am
  Thanks a lot pat.
I think I might be a troll and a cheese head ??? ;D
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2008, 02:07:34 am
Jesse, that bow is outstanding in all aspects. You should not have done this to Pat!!  LOL.  Steve
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: DanaM on December 29, 2008, 07:33:59 am
I thought Jesse was a CheeseHead, not a Troll, lol..I cant keep the U.P. guys straight ;D....Brian

Brian a Troll lives below da bridge in da lower peninsula, a cheesehead lives in Wisconsin, a sotahead is over in da Minnysota
and ya don't wanna know what a FIB is :o ;D

 Jesse dat Yooperwood is da best eh, I might have ta sent ya a Yooper arra fer dat der sweet bow donchayano eh ;) :D 8)
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: dragonman on December 29, 2008, 08:51:54 am
beautifull bow, very elegant, love the colour
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: NTProf on December 29, 2008, 09:18:48 am
Beautiful bow. I think mapel is my favorite wood! I am assuming that it is hard maple. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: adb on December 29, 2008, 10:02:57 am
A very nice bow... well done!! I am also a big fan of maple. Your tiller is spot on. Careful shooting it in the cold... especially self bows. I've had one blow up... wood becomes more brittle when it's cold. I usually don't shoot my selfbows outside in the winter.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: 1/2primitive on December 29, 2008, 10:48:26 am
I seem to faintly remember having that white stuff on the ground. It was wet and cold....
 ;D
Nice bow, tiller is great, and the stain really tops it off. Good job. :)
      Sean
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 29, 2008, 11:32:24 am
Thanks Badger
I thought Jesse was a CheeseHead, not a Troll, lol..I cant keep the U.P. guys straight ;D....Brian


and ya don't wanna know what a FIB is :o ;D

 Jesse dat Yooperwood is da best eh, I might have ta sent ya a Yooper arra fer dat der sweet bow donchayano eh ;) :D 8)
Thanks Dana You becha eh I need wuna dem der yooper arras donchayano but ohly wah dems a bit a work eh?The I stands for Illinois  I wont say what the f and the b are  but its a very common term in northern WI. every time someone sees a plate from IL. :)
Thanks dragonman
thanks NTProf --yes its hard maple
Thanks Adb -- thats the first time I heard that about a selfbow in the cold. Im gonna take my chances but I will consider myself warned and when I get a big lump on the head I will remember your warning ;D
Thanks 1/2 primitive -- the white stuff is a faint memory here from June---Aug.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: knightd on December 29, 2008, 12:03:11 pm
Jesse That is one bow that really catches my attention.. Great tiller just a over all wonderfull bow!! good job!!
David
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: OldBow on December 29, 2008, 03:02:35 pm
Absolutely gorgeous. And the first entry for self bows for 2009. This way we can admire it for one more month.
Congratulations!
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 29, 2008, 03:25:37 pm
Thanks David --great to hear
Thanks Old bow--- very much appreciated :)
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: John B. on December 29, 2008, 05:13:54 pm
That's a real beaut Jesse.  The tiller is killer and the finish is outstanding.
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Post by: John K on December 29, 2008, 07:30:07 pm
Nice looking bow for a cheesehead ! O wait i'm on too  ;D

That Maple is some nice stuff to work. You'r bow looks like it is fast !

JohnK
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: chesjen on December 29, 2008, 09:07:25 pm
That is one sweet looking bow there! You got me itching to get some maple and some red dye.

You said that is hard maple, care to explain to a newbie, I have lots of maple here in north carolina but none of it seems very hard that i have split for firewood.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: PeteC on December 29, 2008, 09:09:35 pm
Jesse,your bow is beautiful.Great job,I like everything about it.You mentioned you used brown rit dye,but how did you get it so red?God Bless
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 29, 2008, 10:42:26 pm
Thanks John and John K  Yup were both cheese heads. Better than being yoopers I guess ;D
Thanks Chesjen-- yup its hard maple. hard maple is found mostly in cold weather areas and has bright leaves in the fall. The leaves and bark look different also. google it and you can see the difference.  :) Im not the best plant Id guy ;D Hillbilly is  the guy to ask.
PeteC Thanks--   Its just cocoa brown rit dye. It just comes out red like that. Ive used it before and it wasnt that red. Must be the mix of acetone. It didnt look near that red until I sealed it. Then the red just popped out.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jbell on December 29, 2008, 11:51:45 pm
WoW! Super nice bow Jesse! I am a big fan of Hard Maple myself, makes a great bow if laid out correctly and you did a great job of that. Congratulations!!!
 Justin
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 30, 2008, 02:35:07 pm
Thanks J Bell --- another good thing about maple is its not to hard to find it nice and straight
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Post by: medicinewheel on December 30, 2008, 03:54:06 pm

WOW!  -  overall a really nice bow. great tiller, great details!
love it.
frank
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 30, 2008, 04:12:17 pm
Thanks Frank. Im surprised with the response this bows getting. Something about a self bow that makes them a whole lot more rewarding than with a backing. :) in my book. I mostly do boo backed which I love but making a self bow is just cooler :).
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Post by: Rich Saffold on December 30, 2008, 04:18:05 pm
It's unanimous that's a sweet bow Jesse. I too make lots of backed bows, but I probably prefer getting the most out of a good stave as well.

Is that snow? ;D

Rich
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: DanaM on December 30, 2008, 05:29:57 pm
Jesse the next staves I give ya aren't going to be nice and straight like that one >:D
Time for a tougher challenge buddy, I have a sister stave to bob :o You remember bob don't ya? ;)
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Post by: Jesse on December 30, 2008, 05:52:18 pm
Thanks Rich. Yup thats snow and its coming down again today. If we get 2 more inches it will be the new record for Dec. we already broke a hundred + year record :o
Dana that stave was nice and straight but It did have some prop twist and after taking that out one limb was way off to the side so I got to play with the heat gun a bit.
I do remember Bob. How could anyone forget bob with all those scars and gravel stuck in the back ;D I welcome the challenge.
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Post by: Denham Archer on December 30, 2008, 06:22:29 pm
Ya know Jesse, I just keep comin' back to look at your bow.  That's my favorite style bow, flatbow with reflex.  I think I'm gonna' have to try makin' one.  If mine comes out half as good as yours did, I'll be a happy camper.  Again, very good job.
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on December 30, 2008, 09:28:38 pm
Thanks Denham archer-------Go get some wood. Im sure your gonna make a great bow :)
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Post by: FlintWalker on December 30, 2008, 11:02:29 pm
Yessir Jesse, that is one sweeet bow!  I bet it shoots as good as it looks too. 
  Are those tip overlays, or did you leave extra wood out on the tips to serve as "built in" overlays?
Either way it looks nice.
  You don't post many, but when you do, it's something to look at.
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Post by: Jesse on December 30, 2008, 11:20:16 pm
Much appreciated Saw Filer     Those are overlays of ebony. I got some cheap a while back and finally used up the last of it on this bow. I just got a buffalo hide and head so my overlays will be horn for a while now :)
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Post by: Hillbilly on December 31, 2008, 11:10:51 am
Jesse, that's a mighty fine looking bow, all around just about as close to perfect as you can get. Great tiller, great detail work and finish, looks like a smooth shooter, too, I'll bet. Great job!
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Post by: Jesse on December 31, 2008, 11:57:29 am
Thanks for the fine compliment Hillbilly. Ive been listening to you guys for a few years now. Guess its sinking in a little.
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Post by: George D. Stout on December 31, 2008, 12:50:53 pm
That's a beauty for sure.  If I may, when you take photos with white backgrounds....like bright snow....use fill flash to highlight the subject.   White backgrounds shut down the f-stop on auto cameras and you don't get much detail on the actual subject.  Fill flash my friend and we will see more of that beautiful piece.  Take some photos of that on a darker background, like a pastel blanket or deer hide, etc., so we can get a good look at her.  Very nice.
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Post by: Pappy on January 01, 2009, 05:31:27 pm
Man that is a beauty,tiller looks great and the finish work is awsome. I love it  ,great job. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: MAPLE SELFBOW made by me and you lots o pics
Post by: Jesse on January 01, 2009, 07:39:00 pm
Thanks George--- My picture taking method is set the self timer and run. ;D
Thanks Pappy--- as mentioned at the top. You helped me a lot in the early stages. :)
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Post by: Ryano on January 01, 2009, 08:53:35 pm
Glad that came out so well for ya Jesse. Great job!  8)
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Post by: GregB on January 15, 2009, 08:05:15 am
Jesse, I'm sorry...this one got by me somehow without my seeing it until now. Really a good looking bow. The tiller looks great and a good job on the dye/finish work. I'm sure she will spit an arrow as well! Very nice! ;)
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Post by: Jesse on January 15, 2009, 11:09:40 am
Thanks Greg. This was a few pages back. I didnt think it would get brought back up. You actually helped me giving me advice on it at the classic. Thanks again Greg your a class act.
Ryano your advice is the reason it doesnt have string follow ;)
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Post by: DirtyDan on January 15, 2009, 12:57:00 pm
Jesse, I agree with all that has been said.  This is one of the most beautiful bows I have seen in a long time.  I, too, have started using some maple, and I love it.  It is so smooth--it just seems to want to bend.  Your bow is gorgeous.  The color is unusual but with the ebony tips and slight reflex, it looks good in all aspects.  Well done.

Dan
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Post by: Jesse on January 15, 2009, 05:18:07 pm
Much appreciated Dan  :)
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Post by: robbsbass on January 15, 2009, 11:46:16 pm
This is the bow I received from Jesse today as my Christmas present, I couldn't be happier, and consider myself one of the luckiest guys around right now. I will Cherish this bow for a long time.
Thanks Jesse

    Robb
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Post by: DanaM on January 16, 2009, 12:46:55 pm
I think the fact that Jesse gave this bow away speaks volumes about his character and also
makes the story behind the bow that much better. Speaks volumes for the type of folks that
you meet her on the PA board :) Well done Jesse, and I will replace the stave with a new one
maybe even more.
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Post by: GregB on January 16, 2009, 01:24:24 pm
Dana, I agree with your comments concerning Jesse's character...he's quite a character, as are you! ;D Alll kidding aside, I found Jesse to be a fine fellow and really enjoyed our conversations during the Classic. His wife is very nice also! I'm glad yall are all planning to come back!

You're not half bad either Dana... ;)  ;D
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Post by: DanaM on January 16, 2009, 01:36:51 pm
Can hardly wait to come back for more Tennesse hospitality Greg :)
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Post by: Jesse on January 16, 2009, 03:50:11 pm
Well what do ya say to that. Thanks.  Dana you started this giving spirit around here and I think its been great for the group. I agree. Cant hardly wait for some southern hospitality and cooking. :)
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Post by: DanaM on January 16, 2009, 09:20:30 pm
Well what do ya say to that. Thanks.  Dana you started this giving spirit around here and I think its been great for the group. I agree. Cant hardly wait for some southern hospitality and cooking. :)

I don't think I started the giving spirit Jesse but I sure do like giving stuff away and helping out a newcomer. Heck to me thats what this is all about,
I guess I just like to share my good fortune with others. There are so many good folk on here that it would be impossible to name then all :) I think my signature line says it all.
Thanks for the kind words though :)
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Post by: DCM on January 17, 2009, 09:36:13 am
That's as fine a bow as I can imagine.  Bends fantastic, and looks great too.  Thanks for posting.
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Post by: Karly on February 02, 2009, 09:07:28 am
A real pretty bow.
Pls tell me what is RIT ? I like the colour but i dont find a translation for the word rit...
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Post by: Stoker on February 02, 2009, 09:53:45 am
RIT dye that's the name of the product it's clothing dye. We used to use it for making tye dyed t-shirts with it. You can find it at wally world comes in many colors mix and match come up with some cool stuff. It is a beutiful bow well done I really like the tips, Job very well done. Thanks leroy