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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 09:22:32 am

Title: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 09:22:32 am: Would this be a good place to start for someone's first Bow?

Thanks!

http://216.119.68.89/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_8&products_id=211&zenid=1a97a6169585c3235f06d8986e2513c8
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: DanaM on December 27, 2008, 09:49:58 am: If you have the money to spare it will be ok. But you can but a redoak board and some linen backing and make a bow for about $10

Check out Jawge's site for info on board bows

http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/

Welcome to Primitive Archer :)
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: El Destructo on December 27, 2008, 10:11:49 am: What Dana said.....a Floor Tillered Stave is just that Floor Tillered to bend a little when pushed hard against the Floor....go to the Lumberyard....and look for a nice piece of Red Oak.....with as straight a grain as possible....with little to no runoff....and try to find either Biased(quartersawn) grain or Edge Grain....these to me are the safest Grains for a Selfbow

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Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 10:25:49 am: Hey, Thanks for the tips. I'm off to look for some wood!
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: sailordad on December 27, 2008, 10:40:15 am: ya ive got/done a couple of jims floor tilered hick board staves.
nothing wrong with them.i bought them because none of the local lumber yards carry hickory boards that are worth making a bow from.

but ya it is cheaper if ya can buy it at a local yard.

good luck
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: adb on December 27, 2008, 11:14:32 am: I've purchased material form Jim in the past, but I soon realized I could get better & cheaper results by doing it myself.
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: Badbill on December 27, 2008, 12:06:19 pm: When I was first starting out I contacted Rudderbows to see what they had. Jim offered any help I needed plus said to call him anytime. Where I live in Minnesota the nearest Home Depot is 50 miles away. After I found Jim's place I found P.A. and can now trade for my supplies. Its nice to have access to both types of places to obtain materials. I think Rudderbows as a business offers a more stable product yet P.A. offers a greater range of Materials. Jim also offers a video to help new guys get going, it was helpful too. Though I received the same help and info. here on P.A., it was nice to be able to see what they were talking about.
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: Scowler on December 27, 2008, 12:25:18 pm: I think so. I've bought several bows from Jim's outfit. They are well made and are good performers.
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 12:37:15 pm: Is it going to be a Bow or kindeling, I’ll let you guys knows. Good practice either way.
Thanks for the Help and the links.

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Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: Badbill on December 27, 2008, 12:42:12 pm: Looks like Red Oak from Home Depot. How much per strip?
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 12:45:55 pm: $5.00 Lowes
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 03:34:49 pm: First piece of firewood!

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Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: koan on December 27, 2008, 03:38:59 pm: Jeff, how wide is your board? Looks a little narrow. Try startin with 2 in. or 1 3/4 wide. If the board has alot of grain runoff back it with some linen or some kind of cloth first before bending the wood much....Brian
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: koan on December 27, 2008, 03:41:37 pm: Oh and be sure to round those edges a little before you go too far...Looks like that might have helped with that one. Try again, dont give up, learn from it and move on. Good luck...Brian
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: El Destructo on December 27, 2008, 04:14:34 pm: Go Slow....Round the Edges............and did I say .....go Slow.............and use Jawges website too....

http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/boardbowbuildalong.html
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: sailordad on December 27, 2008, 06:11:02 pm: sorry about that man,but it happens. do like they all said,round corners,back it,keep it a little wider.
did they mention to go slow and be patient. jawges website is always helpfull.
and remember go slow and be patient.
ask lots of questions and post pics as you go,if you got a question,stop take a pic,post the pic along with questions and wait for repsonses.
you have access to some of the best wood bow makers with this website. use it to your advantage.

"never give up,never surrender." tim allen's character from the movie Galaxy Quest

good luck

peace,
tim
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 27, 2008, 08:00:17 pm: When should I back it?
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: koan on December 27, 2008, 09:49:01 pm: If you think It needs a backing, you can do it after you rough it out...threads tangled in a bandsaw sux, lol.....Brian
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 28, 2008, 03:41:31 pm: 2nd bow 68" long x 1-3/4 Rounded Edges
Tips are around 7/16 -1/2 Mid point around 5/8 3/4 at handle

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Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 28, 2008, 05:49:31 pm: Could fiber glass cloth and two part epoxy be used for backing, I just happen to have some lying around from my R/C plane days.

Thanks!
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: El Destructo on December 28, 2008, 06:42:41 pm: Quote from: jeff02 on December 28, 2008, 05:49:31 pm
Could fiber glass cloth and two part epoxy be used for backing, I just happen to have some lying around from my R/C plane days.

Thanks!

If you want to go and Talk about it on another Board...It would be cool!! These Guys here have an Aversion to the FG Word!!! ;D ;) :P
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 28, 2008, 07:57:23 pm: OK how bout Linen and Tight Bond?
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: El Destructo on December 28, 2008, 08:33:22 pm: Linen...Silk.....or my Favorite....Rawhide....and they all Love Titebond 2 or 3......

Dont forget to post Pictures too....We all want to see things as they progress

And did I tell Ya........The FG Word...is a Bad Thang.....It's Taa-Taa....( say SH*T) as my Grandmother used to tell all athe Babies when they put something Nasty in their Mouths!!! >:D 8)
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: koan on December 28, 2008, 09:46:14 pm: Titebond is good stuff!...Brian
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: Hickoryswitch on December 28, 2008, 10:08:16 pm: Looks like it's well on it's way to being a bow. If you haven't backed a bow don't worry it's a breeze. I'm with el destructo I really like rawhide.
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: Auggie on December 29, 2008, 07:18:45 am: Bed sheet of high thread count work well,just dont tell the mrs. where ya got it. >:D O:)
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 29, 2008, 08:54:34 am: Thanks for posting my site above. I think beginners should consider a bend in the handle bow. No glue on handle. Back with silk, linen or burlap. Jawge
Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: jeff02 on December 29, 2008, 07:59:52 pm: Starten to look like a bow.

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Title: Re: First Bow for a Newbie
Post by: John B. on December 29, 2008, 08:07:02 pm: Lookin' good. Get those inner limbs bending!