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Primitive Kid
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Back to square 1
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October 04, 2008, 03:16:15 pm »
I was working on a Red oak and bamboo bow but when I in was the tillering stage and it snapped right at the handle. So i am going to try again mabey Osage and bamboo any tips?
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Primitive Kid
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October 04, 2008, 03:17:25 pm »
Broke my first one.
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ravenbeak
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October 04, 2008, 04:03:44 pm »
My first 3 broke, one at full draw, which caused atleast one grey hair. One while stringing it, and one while tillering over the knee.
I'd say you're right where you should be.
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Pat B
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October 04, 2008, 04:13:35 pm »
Osage would be a better choice with a boo back. Did you cut out a shelf on your bow? I leave the handle area and the last 6" of the tips alone until the bow is tillered. That way you can make side to side adjustments plus it gives you a place to clamp the bow while working. Instead of a shelf you can narrow the handle area and add an arrow shelf with leather, wood or antler and get the same effect but keep the integrity of the handle area. Pat
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Bowbound
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October 04, 2008, 05:43:28 pm »
well at least it gives you an excuse to start another one.
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Dane
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October 04, 2008, 05:54:15 pm »
Excused are simply not requred, Limey-Josh
Everyone breaks bows learning, and then after that too. Think of them as lessons, even if they make you feel aweful. You'll be a much better bowyer for the mistakes you make, rather than the successes. Life is like that, too.
Dane
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markinengland
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October 04, 2008, 06:22:25 pm »
I broke my bow today. Still, I shot it most weekend for over two years. Bows break. It happens to every wooden bow eventually I think. the aim is to get them breaking as late as you can!
There may well be a lighter wood to back red oak with that would actually give a better bow than boo/redoak. Maybe elm or ash? Boo could be in danger of over powering the red oak maybe? One of the nicest broken bows I ever saw was red oak! Why not try hickory or boo backed boo?
How much force was being applied during this tillering when it spapped? Any idea which bit gave way first? You can learn a lot from a good bow autopsy!
Mark in England
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Sidewinder
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October 04, 2008, 08:43:13 pm »
Sorry about your failure Primitive. Like Dane said though its how we get better. If it did'nt bother us so much we would'nt learn, so its not really a bad thing so long as you benefit in knowledge. Here you thought you were gonna get a bow out of it that will only last a few years and instead you end up with knowledge and expeience that will last a life time. Not a bad way of looking at it if you ask me. I haven't done any laminations but from what I read it would take a pretty thin boo backing to keep it from overpowering the red oak. I like the boo osage idea it should be a good match. Danny
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stiknstring
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October 04, 2008, 09:36:52 pm »
Thin and narrow. Trap the boo so that it is narrower than the belly wood. That is the lesson I learned from one of Manny's bows and again the bowyers bible volume 4. Once I use up this tigerwood and the last piece of ipe I have I am gonna give her a go for a friends bow.
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Primitive Kid
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October 04, 2008, 10:42:05 pm »
ok heres the pic's
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kayakfisher
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October 04, 2008, 10:56:59 pm »
Today my son became a bowyer , and broke his first one ,but last night had a real nice eight pointer come up close to his stand.
Dad/Dennis
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islandpiper
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October 05, 2008, 09:21:24 am »
I guess we all break 'em once in a while. That is the nature of wood.....and spare time activities......sort of like hooking a really big fish and then breaking the line. **it happens.
But, there is hope. You can use the long piece and make a primitive wood turning lathe. Heck, maybe even a dowel maker!
Visit this site, lots of others showing modern adaptations of the spring pole lathe on google:
http://www.historicgames.com/lathes/springpole.html
piper
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George Tsoukalas
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Re: Back to square 1
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October 05, 2008, 10:37:54 am »
If this is your first keep it simple. Make a simple bow with a backing like silk, linen or burlap. Forget the cut in shelves. There's lots of simple on my site. Simple is all I've ever done. It has taken me close to 20 years to learn simple.
Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/
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