Thanks willie and Pat . Yeh Pat my aim is to slightly fill the handle area out with some leather ( back and belly ) and wrap with either some red artificial sinew or some brown waxed thread . Just waiting for my piece of Ash board 6ft 6" x 2 1/2" . As stated previous I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge which Ive gained through previous builds and all the info I get from yourselves and others on here , so thanks .