2122 reviews, and 105 replies. That is a superior thread .Last time we had a thread like that on here it was the fire hardening thread which had every body fired up.. Any of you guys who are disgusted by this thread ever have a heated argument about one thing or another. I will answer. We all have. It is a discussion about speed machines, and speed of wooden,and lam bows which go together, and what they are capable of.. Opinions should be welcome. You listen,and make up your own mind. Stop reading threads you don't like ,and move on. That is the best way to deal with it.