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Chris3kilo

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Possible drawlength 62"
« on: November 08, 2016, 07:08:36 am »
My drawlength is 30" and according to a website my optimal longbow bowlength would then be 70".
But finding straight 70" staves is really hard.
At the moment I'm working on a elder stave wich max. would be 62" from nock to nock. Is it even possible to get 30" drawlength out of a stave like that and what drawweight could I hope for? Maybe some of you guys could share some insane drawlengths you got from short bows.  :)

Offline sleek

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 07:09:45 am »
It can be done. Easiest way is a bendy handle with recurves and wide limbs. I have gotten 26" with 45 ntn and 28 with 48. But, thay wasn't an easy build.
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Chris3kilo

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 07:22:01 am »
Wow so maybe there's hope.  :)
Unfortunately the with is already cut out. The stave is now only 4cm wide. It has some knotss and a soft crown. I'm not a huge fan of bending in the handle, but I'll try keeping it real short. Would paper backing be a good idea?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 12:21:51 pm by Chris3kilo »

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 08:39:38 am »
And what was the reasoning behind narrowing the limbs like that at this point?
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Offline PatM

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 08:49:49 am »
I think the stave was from a small diameter trunk so just tapering the thickness reduced the width.

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 11:28:27 am »
Bendy is the safest bet with what you have to work with. Or you could splice in some length on the tips
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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 11:48:53 am »
I helped a friend with a 34" draw length make an osage bow. I think we went 73"ntn for a rigid handle bow with a 7-8" non bending handle area.
That bow sure was smooth for my 26" draw. :)
Chris what type of bow did you use to measure your draw length?
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Chris3kilo

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 12:21:01 pm »
Marc I don't like wider limbs. Rather have no bow. But in worst case it'll fit my girlfriends drawlength so it would be for her if you guys say it isn't possible to achieve 30".
George thats one huge friend you got :laugh:
I'm a new archer and bowyer so my drawlength is calculated from fingertip to finger tip. Had a beech longbow 70" that pulled 40# at 30" and that bow felt perfect. Unfortunately I made it from some deadwood I found and it broke later on due to rot.

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 01:21:37 pm »
How tall are you?
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Offline PatM

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 01:48:49 pm »
Marc I don't like wider limbs. Rather have no bow.

  Well then you'll need length. But no bow? Really?

Chris3kilo

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 01:58:19 pm »
Yea really.
I'm 196 cm tall

Chris3kilo

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 02:00:08 pm »
6 feet 5 11⁄64 inches
Man you non-metric guys must be good at math :laugh:

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 02:51:47 pm »
"I don't like wider limbs. Rather have no bow."

Me too. Well, not that I'd rather have NO bow... more like, I'd rather use wood, designs, and construction methods that allowed me to have what I wanted... and there are plenty.
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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 03:06:07 pm »
What draw weight do you want?

I think it should be doable..

barely bending handle built up with cork? maybe built up on the back like wizardgoat does it, that should give you a little extra draw length

deflexed with flipped tips?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 03:17:29 pm by loon »

Chris3kilo

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Re: Possible drawlength 62"
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 03:07:04 pm »
Well, me too. The log did look promising when i cut. 2m long. But elder have a hollow pith with somekind of humus stuff in, and it had some critical limb twist that meant that I had to cut alot off. So know I got a too short stave that i wanna make the best of. I hope it is doable with some deadstraight tillering.