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Offline DC

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Set, just checking
« on: February 11, 2016, 07:02:57 pm »
It's the set you have immediately after unstringing that matters, right? The fact that it recovers another 1' or so overnight is meaningless?
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Offline huisme

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2016, 07:59:31 pm »
I believe so because it is from that point in the limbs deformation that the work was being done, not the point of complete rest.
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Offline Tree_Ninja

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2016, 08:15:50 pm »
I had thought that set was non-reversable, and string-follow is what recovers over night. I also thought set was caused by green wood, rushed tillering or bow design....
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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2016, 08:35:45 pm »
Quote from: huisme on February 11, 2016, 07:59:31 pm
I believe so because it is from that point in the limbs deformation that the work was being done, not the point of complete rest.

Set is the change every bow has between starting and filtered profile, and some of it is temporary and related to the added stress of shooting. String follow is when the tips of the limb follow the string past the axis of the grip when the bow is resting. All bows take some amount of set whether you see it or not, some wood cells are always damaged when wood is bent, but not all bows have string follow.
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Offline Chief RID

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 06:35:30 am »
Now that was a lesson!
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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 06:44:19 am »
Answer is yes DC, that being said I still like it when the recover some after resting, good explanation huisme.  :) People seem to have trouble knowing the difference in set and string follow. :)
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Offline PatM

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 08:31:45 am »
Quote from: Pappy on February 12, 2016, 06:44:19 am
Answer is yes DC, that being said I still like it when the recover some after resting, good explanation huisme.  :) People seem to have trouble knowing the difference in set and string follow. :)
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 People have a harder time understanding the reasoning for separating the two. ;)
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Offline Badger

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 08:41:50 am »
  Set is a whole study of its own. If you could measure the set in the first split second you unbrace the bow it would be more than it is after 1 second. Some set recovers just split seconds behind the shot when the arrow leaves the bow and it is still braced. We call that hysterisis. The only way to measure true set is to run a long and tedious bunch of tests so most of us just refer to immediately unbraced profile.
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 08:51:26 am »
Set happens. :) Jawge
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 09:39:06 am »
Obviously some slight disagreement in the terms here.
My understanding is that set is the permanent fixed bend which all bows (and even steel springs) will suffer from.
The extra bit which is there after a days shooting, but recovers fairly quickly is string follow.... (or is it the other way round ;) >:D )
Anyhow... like Jawge says "set happens" .
An if I have a choice between set and a broken bow... I'll go for a bit of set every time!
If you think about the actual words ... "Set" implies permanent... like when cement sets...
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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 09:58:34 am »
Quote from: Del the cat on February 12, 2016, 09:39:06 am
Obviously some slight disagreement in the terms here.
My understanding is that set is the permanent fixed bend which all bows (and even steel springs) will suffer from.
The extra bit which is there after a days shooting, but recovers fairly quickly is string follow.... (or is it the other way round ;) >:D )
Anyhow... like Jawge says "set happens" .
An if I have a choice between set and a broken bow... I'll go for a bit of set every time!
If you think about the actual words ... "Set" implies permanent... like when cement sets...
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Offline bow101

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 11:12:19 am »
Its set that stays,  you gotta brace your bows higher and don't coddle them.
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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 11:18:54 am »
 
Quote from: bow101 on February 12, 2016, 11:12:19 am
you gotta brace your bows higher and don't coddle them.

Now you dragged me in. Explain your statement, if you would.
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Offline bow101

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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 02:08:14 pm »
 >:D
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Re: Set, just checking
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 02:35:50 pm »
Your explanation, please.
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