Tracy, I've killed my last 3 deer with Dan's points and all of 'em went slam through that includes a little 42# shorty made by Don Carter. When ya consider that they are all real hard chert/flint and he makes mine ABO I'm truely impressed with the mans work (ya never would have guessed would ya

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The rose is hard to straighten so I do it on the average.....like a snaky stave line up the fore and aft with a majority of the middle. Not scientific but they fly real well for me.
rich
PS: I think the native red osier, and the arrowwood viburnum is easier to work but these rose shafts seem to be real tough.