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Offline JackCrafty

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Re: Measuring distances
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 05:25:52 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2015, 05:28:50 pm »
Its less accurate, but I'd pace it.  I've got my pace count down pretty well.

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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2015, 10:51:26 pm »
Its less accurate, but I'd pace it.  I've got my pace count down pretty well.
Does it go 1,2, 3 ,4 etc?  ;D

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Re: Measuring distances
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2015, 11:42:09 pm »
12.5 paces per chain

Offline Jules

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Re: Measuring distances
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2015, 09:12:06 am »
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but are we talking about measuring from a right angle from the shooting line or from the shooters position?

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2015, 09:37:37 am »
  Jules, I like the right angle method presently used but as long as we all do it the same way it wouldn't be that important. Not a huge difference with a 50 yard wide field.

Offline Buckeye Guy

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2015, 03:17:13 pm »
How do we figure in the wind or is it just noted ?
I am not sure there is ever an hour of no wind on this flat ground here .
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Offline Badger

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2015, 03:41:41 pm »
  Buckeye, good point. Currently they simply use whatever wind to the advanatage of the shot. I have never liked this. I am working on a go no go type windsock where if it is on no go records would not count or they would be lableled as wind aided. I would think about 10 mph would be a reasonable number to shoot under. Might need some statistical info here to make a good call on a fair wind.

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Re: Measuring distances
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2015, 04:40:58 pm »
Wind measurer in the officials kit then? :P

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2015, 04:57:37 pm »
  Thats would be my rcomendation. My opinions on things have no special or stronger influence on what we settle on. I do plan to argue them but will remain open to what the majority is in favor of. We may start with a preliminary trial year to make a few adjustment if needed in rules and such. It really should not be neccessary though.

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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2015, 08:01:59 pm »
I can try to provide some history on the wind speed debate.  It is not a new idea.  The wind factor has been debated numerous times in the last 100 years, and I am sure it was debated in the 1000 years before that among the Turks.  I will summarize why it hasn't gained traction up to this point in time.

1) The majority, if not all the top record shots have not taken place in high winds, regardless of wind direction. High winds tend to be very turbulent wreaking havoc on longer arrow flights.

2) A wind gauge at ground level doesn't necessarily indicate the wind conditions higher above the ground.  I've shot in winds blowing hard in the opposite direction 100 feet above the ground. Unlike the fastest car events, we are dealing with three dimensional space with our arrows.

3) A wind gauge says nothing about one of the biggest weather-related influences on long distance arrow flight, which is upward and downward thermals.

4) We have no control over the weather, so we are just introducing a layer of complexity to the event that will lead to potential delays and cancellations.  Either the conditions are safe for shooting, or they are not, and we don't shoot.

In the past, we have decided to take an early lunch break if the conditions are absolutely dead. Instead, I would favor shooting more rounds rather than sit tight and try to second guess the weather.

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Re: Measuring distances
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2015, 08:08:45 pm »
I wondered  about  that Alen
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2015, 08:19:18 pm »
  Good point Allen, I have always heard regular flight distances do better on calmer days while broadheads tend to benefit more from the wind. I would go along with just ignoring it.