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Offline lesken2011

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Douglas Fur Arrows
« on: September 06, 2014, 07:23:09 pm »
I went to Lowes a couple nights ago to see if they had any clean pine to make some arrows. I got a Veritas dowell cutter a few months ago and haven't had time to use it yet. When I got there and started looking through the select boards, I ran across some douglas fur boards with dead straight tight grain. I ripped them today and will make my first attempt at spinning them through the dowell maker tomorrow. I took a few picks and will post them in the next couple of days. Any advice or comments would be appreciated.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 08:51:15 pm »
Take some scrap of your stock and use it to perfect your technique with the dowel cutter. I haven' used one but I've heard it takes a little fine tuning to get it working just right.  ;)
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 03:49:28 am »
i have some 23/64 doug fir shafts and they are awesome
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2014, 09:16:32 am »
Thanks for the tips, fellas. Here are a couple of pics.



I will be curious to see what kind of spine I get out of these. If the first batch works out, they had a bunch of these in stock with similar grain. This 1X6 board 6 feet long was about 7 bucks.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2014, 09:21:29 am »
Looks good Kenny. Fir is usually a bit stronger than POC.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2014, 10:18:15 am »
Thanks, Chris. When I get them sanded parallel, I will check the spine. I hope to be able to rig up a taper jig and taper them down to 5/16 on the nock end...spine permitting.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2014, 01:09:49 pm »
You will probably get a wide range of spines even from the same board. After the shafts are made you'll have to put them in groups of spine and physical weight.
 I made a simple jig for tapering the back 9" to 11" of shafts. I can post pics for you here or send you an email with pics and a description of what you use and how it works. I've tapered a few poplar shafts with great results.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2014, 01:13:43 pm »
Yeah, Pat, I had seen some of your posts about that. I have watched a couple of YouTube vids with varying techniques, but would love to see your method.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 05:21:17 pm »
I made this with one 1x4x36" red oak board from Lowe's and a few stove bolts, washers and wing nuts. The sand paper is from a small sanding belt and I used double sided carpet tape from ACE Hardware.




the holes in the bottom are to let the wood dust fall through.


these are spacers I use to set up the jig...


the stop is removable for different taper links...
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 06:42:11 pm »
Very nice jig Pat!  a lot like mine, but I don't use mine much any more,  been making cane and boo arrows lately  :)  great idea with the holes for the sawdust to drop out, need to do that to mine.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 06:50:06 pm »
I don't use this one much. Just haven't made arrows lately. I still have some poplar shafts that Charlie Jefferson(Stringstretcher) sent me and that's what I made the taper jig for. Too many projects, not near enough time.  ;D
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 11:41:25 pm »
The DF I used was old growth, very old like 40 rings per inch.  A good thing about DF arrows is when they break it is usually very clean so it makes it easy to glue back up.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 09:38:55 am »
Thanks, Pat. That is a great design I will copy, for sure. I didn't get to fool with the dowell maker much this weekend due to other commitments, but late yesterday I spun one dowell that turned out great. I put it on the spine tester (still 3/8) and it spined at about 100 lbs. I sure hope that when I sand them down to normal arrow size (23/64, 11/32, 5/16) they will be closer to the 50-55 lbs or so that I am looking for. I am going to rig up a jig to reduce the shaft parallel first to get the spine closer before I try the taper. If they still turn out way too heavy, maybe looking for some with less tight grain would render a lower spine shaft. Well, if these are too stiff, maybe I can trade them for something.
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Re: Douglas Fur Arrows
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 11:39:18 am »
You could probably use the taper jig to reduce the diameter of the shafts if you go slow. Just adjust it for parallel instead of tapered.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 12:44:12 pm »
Good idea, Pat. What grit paper have you found to work best?
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