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Offline mullet

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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 04:45:32 pm »
Yes, a she. She got in touch with me when I was in Spain about making her a Jade point.
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2013, 06:06:04 pm »
well what do ya know... a she.  that's almost refreshing ain't it?  I retract my previous "him" comment
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2013, 07:25:05 pm »
Matt, poverty weed is very forgiving when it comes to seasoning.  You can force dry it, peeled or unpeeled, in less that 3 months.  You can hand straighten during the drying process without heat.  Of course, use heat to straighten when dry.

I've left unpeeled shoots in a hot car.  Not sure if the peeled shoots would be OK in a hot car, though.  But normal summer heat is not a problem.  I seal the ends with titebond.
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2013, 10:04:15 am »
thanks Patrick, I'm going to go cut some today.....

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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 10:28:37 am »
Those points look exceptionally nice, especially when mounted on those foreshafts and ready to hunt. Look deadly as well as beautiful to me, very nice.
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2013, 06:55:57 am »
You make some really cool points Patrick,love um. Cool display Ryan. :)
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2013, 12:59:52 pm »
Real nice stuff as usual ! Hey I was looking at your Facebook page and saw you had used some kind of red ocre to paint your arrow shafts with what is that stuff and where can I find it?
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2013, 03:23:02 pm »
Elijah, the "red ocre" is iron oxide.  I mix it with hide glue, fish glue, or Titebond glue.  You can buy it as a powder form art supply stores.
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2013, 09:41:07 am »
Nice post Patrick! Good stuff.
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2013, 11:10:11 am »
Badly, Pappy, Jon, thanks for the compliments!   :)
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2013, 01:39:36 pm »
I know there has been discussion on it before with what states allow, and I clearly understand the effectiveness of stone hunting points and their penetration, but,  at what width do you think that bird points begin to lose their effectiveness where it could be justifiable by the state?  Do people think there is a justifiable width needed? 

I mean, no one is going hunting with a field point...so thoughts?

Some of these "bird points" are tested on deer by billy berger on youtube.  penetration is fine.

I'm not a "anti-big brother" type but the minimum cutting widths is regulation to try and ensure humane and quick death of the animal.  Historicaly I think many of these were used on "large game". 

Same with minimum draw weights.  I get the intent but I'm not certain it's an effective regulation. In Iowa you can use what ever you want.

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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2013, 04:45:25 pm »
Let's all move to Iowa.   ;D
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2013, 05:54:44 pm »
Just hit a deer in Angelo. $$$ repairs to truck, seems like you can possess any and all parts of road killed deer in IA. Lets go!
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2013, 10:27:45 pm »
Road kill is OK too? I'm there.   :)
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Re: Birdpoints
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2013, 02:26:36 am »
Those little birdpoints really are lethal on big game.  I've done several penetration tests with them on freshly killed deer and never had any problem with penetration.  I've seen a lot in museums, and examined a number of arrows in the Smithsonian.  Most stone points were quite small.  Even metal trade points were quite small compared to today's arrowheads.  Except for a set of Sioux arrows that were made of split hickory.  They had large, beefy iron points on them, but then the heavy hickory would have carried a hell of a lot of energy and woulda had a lot of punch on an enemy or big game. 
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