Mr. Steve:  Hawk drew a deer tag in the Mts. and I never drew anything.  Lucky enough there are some general licenses in the high country that are available.  Out of state hunters have to have a guide to hunt in the wilderness areas so there are some places to pack into for us.  We plan to take a pack trip in hopes of surrounding a couple of bulls.  I can hunt up to three cow elk on the ranch where I live.  I have been invited to a training camp for young people sponsored by the Game and Fish.  Last year my part was flintknapping and this year it will be elk calling.  The stone point thing is a good thing for us!  Joe