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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2013, 04:54:05 pm »
Now that is a thing of beauty! You find that in some dark hollow? Bet you could get a nice english longbow from that, maybe 2 OR 3. Nice piece!
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2013, 05:19:21 pm »
Yep, found it back in a thick swamp. There was 4 or 5 but I only had time to cut one. it took me an hour to get it down out of the other trees after I cut it. It wouldn't fall. And I was planning an ELB.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 06:11:00 pm »
Now that is a thing of beauty! You find that in some dark hollow? Bet you could get a nice english longbow from that, maybe 2 OR 3. Nice piece!

Yes, that is nice!
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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2013, 07:58:40 pm »
Pearl you want a clean board?

I would gladly take one if your offering Brian. Thanks. I have a piece of hickory I could use, or bamboo.
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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 12:59:00 pm »
Yep, found it back in a thick swamp. There was 4 or 5 but I only had time to cut one. it took me an hour to get it down out of the other trees after I cut it. It wouldn't fall. And I was planning an ELB.

Hmmmmmm..... Sounds a little sneaky to me! Haha!! That is a sweet chunk!
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2013, 01:18:15 pm »
Sweet piece there Eddie..........   get to shaving I want to see the ELB you pull out of that one :)

That's a rare stave!!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2013, 01:37:05 pm »
This isnt a selfbow, and ERC has a tough time handling any type of tension on the back.
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2013, 01:48:45 pm »
your point?
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2013, 02:38:50 pm »
Good clean ERC is very hard to come by whether in stave or board form.  If you can find it you sure have something.

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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2013, 04:45:04 pm »
your point?

The real way to test a woods strength is to make an unbacked bow from it. It seemed you were trying to prove ERC is valuable as a bow wood but you backed it with maple. That's all. I have tried ERC before and i won't again.

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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2013, 05:10:27 pm »
<snip>The real way to test a woods strength is to make an unbacked bow from it.<snip>

There is a fallacy at work here.  All an unbacked bow proves is that the wood has adequate properties in the realm of tension strength to make a bow.  This is an important test, ...but it is only one area of "strength" to consider relative to the value of a bow wood.  There would seem to be many more properties of a particular species of wood to consider.   ...like compression strength, elasticity, density or mass to capacity ratios, fiber or grain pattern, ...etc.

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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2013, 05:31:05 pm »
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The real way to test a woods strength is to make an unbaked bow from it.

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I know you can make a unbacked epe bow but most wouldn't, when you can get a screamin' bow buy backing it with boo, so epe is a second tier wood?
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2013, 06:21:31 pm »
Someone send me a clear 70 inch stave, and I will prove you wrong! :laugh:
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Offline Josh B

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2013, 06:40:02 pm »
Lol!  No doubt you could easily prove that wrong, but its hardly necessary.  If the search function worked better, there are already plenty examples of erc self bows on this forum alone.  John McPherson has been training special forces in Advanced survival training for quite a few years and part of the curriculum is for every student to make a survival bow with nothing more than a field knife.  The only wood they use...... unbacked erc limbs.  Most of these operators have never made a bow in their life.  It's not that hard to do and it doesn't require a seventy inch perfectly clean stave.  It does however, require you to leave your yellow wood mentality behind.  I love osage, but I believe it has spoiled a lot of bowyers that try to make an Osage bow out of lesser woods.  It just don't work, most of the time anyway.  BTW, beautiful bow Brian!  Josh

Offline Josh B

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Re: ERC BOW
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2013, 06:49:51 pm »
Just to be clear, I'm not accusing anyone in particular of having a yellow wood mentality.  I meant that part in a more general application.  Josh