Need your opinion, ...discussion welcome, + glue question + profile

[jamie]

manny i added some ground up brick to my hide glue as a color base. that bow lost very little cast when the humidity picked up. later on i sort of purposely broke the bow and tried to soak the glue to possibly save the sinew. that stuff wouldnt let go for nothing. dont know why but adding the clay from the brick made it stronger and much more resistent to moisture. peace

[Ryano]

Manny, Ive tried both. The knox works better than the titebond......but the titebond will work if you reflex the bow a lot prior to sinewing.

[Coo-wah-chobee]

Manny, next you need to try a Hupa designed bow at 36" long and pulling in the 50# range. Should make the perfect bow for hunting in that dense jungle brush ya got over there.

David T.

                David I was wonderin'. You ever hunt in dense jungle brush ?......bob

[NOMADIC PIRATE]

Ryan, I was planning to reflex/recurve  2 1/12- 3 " if using TB III, what do you think ?

Jamie, good idea I will ad some red lava clay if I go the Knox/hide glue way,..thanks

[Ryano]

If it were me I'd reflex it more than that if your going to use titebond glue. That would be good for knox. I'd go like 6" with tite bond. of coarse that does make them a bit of pain to tiller

[NOMADIC PIRATE]

wow that much, how much set you expect to get with TB/Sinew, and how much with animal/sinew ??

[Ryano]

You will lose at least half with tite bond. You may actualy gain reflex with the knox.

[Lost Arra]

Manny: I had been going thru the same glue debate that you are experiencing right now.

I went with hide glue for two reasons:
1. chemistry- after doing some sinew patch/wraps on some limbs I can see that the hide glue/sinew combination becomes a single entity. The mixture of sinew and hide glue will shrink as a single unit. It is strong as h*#*!
TBIII and sinew just can't do that. The TB is just doing a good job of sticking the sinew to the bow.

2. reading Jay Massey. If that guy could hunt Alaska with a sinew backed bow (hide glue) then there is no reason for me not to use it.  Put on a good finish (I like your spar urethane idea) and go with it.

I'd vote for the short bow to get the most benefit from the sinew.

The way you spit bows out I wouldn't worry about it. You could sinew/hide glue a couple and sinew/TB a few more all by the first of August!

[NOMADIC PIRATE]

Alright, alright,....I'm probably than going with knox gelatine (no hide glue in hawaii ) mixed with grinded lava soil.


....but I better not get those edges to lift !!!!



advice needed,...how much reflex should I get it to before sinewing

[Ryano]

if it were me I would still go 2 1/2-3"

[NOMADIC PIRATE]

Wow Ryan, I'd like to have a finished bow with no more than 1" of reflex, should I still start with that much reflex ??


Went to the store to get Knox tonite,..but I just couldn't buy food to glue a bow, it just felt wrong

[Justin Snyder]

My mom always told me that some foods would stick to your ribs.  I always thought it meant you wont get hungry as fast.  Now I find out it really does stick to you.  Manny, I think you will be happy with the decision to make your own from pig hide and sinew.  Justin