KY Blue Cumberlands

[Wolf Watcher]

Jesse:  Awesome work and fantastic flutes.  I have a bunch of points made by J. B. Solberger when he was making fluted points and somewhere in all my junk I have one of his jigs that he gave me years ago.  Just never got into learing how to use it as I was really only interested in making hunting points.  If I can find it I will try to bring it to the Classic if we get to come this year!  I really do appreciate your skills!  A/Ho Pokie

[leapingbare]

thats neat Joe!
Would be cool to see an origanal solberger fluting jig.

[Pappy]

Very nice work Jesse,they would make a heck of a knife.
   Pappy

[RidgeRunner]

Thanks for the reply Jessy.
My knapping skills are still very weak so I am by no means a knapper.

Over the years I have looked at several long, fluted artifact points and came to the conclusion that some type of pressure jig must have been used.  Watching you get the results you get with your jig was all the more convincing.

Might be mastaken... But I think James Parker has played around with the forked stick jig meathod....

Thanks
David

[leapingbare]

I don't think the forked stick was what the paleo indians used.
Its not consistent, For example your need just the right stick to flute a 5 inch cumberland. if you found the right stick, that same stick would not flute a 4inch or a 6 inch because the angle would be wrong.
 I could be wrong though.

[gutpile]

do you have a pic of this jig you talk about..would love to see it...n action...LOL...gut

[leapingbare]

its just a solboger jig.
You can google it.
Soryy i have no pics

[gutpile]

went on youtube and watched a video.....never knew about that kind of jig for flintknapping...it was really interesting to watch...just makes me wonder how in the heck the paleo's did it without that kind of a jig....learn something everyday...gut

[jamie]

im gonna scew around with primitive levers and see what i can come up with

[AncientArcher76]

Jesse any way of getting some stages in pics??? Like biface and preform pic setting on ur solberger etc...

Russ

[jamie]

spoke with jeff kalin yesterday about this topic. jeff has been knapping all abo for 35+ yrs. has travelled north and south america just to knap with others and pick up rock. as soon as i said cumberland , his eyes lit up. i asked what his thoughts were on a primitive jig and he said "why would you need a jig". the important thing is too leave em pretty thick and like jesse said it needs a diamond cross section. im still convinced that a jig was used, but it can be done by hand. im definetly gonna spend some time with this and see what i can come up with . or untill i break too many points

[AncientArcher76]

Check Jeff out on Youtube type in clovis Knapper and u will see him using a homemade soleberger!

[jamie]

wrong jeff.  kalin is from ct.

[jamie]

spoke with an archaelogist yesterday. she told me about a chest method that was used to flute the big points. she is going to dig up the info and send it to me. in the meantime im trying to get out of the habit of thinning my points too much so i can set up some ridges to flute. im still having a tough time getting away from running my flakes from edge to edge. went back to hammerstones too, thinking that would help build up a ridge and it has a bit. need to change my methods thats for sure.

[HoBow]

Jamie- Some people pray for your problems- "Running flakes from ridge to ridge)