red oak holmegaard

[makenzie71]

I just disagree.

I agree.   

[George Tsoukalas]

I agree too. Jawge

[medicinewheel]

bootboy, all talk about the shelfcut being a problem, but honestly I'm not sure about the integrity of the knot in the handle either!
If you had left some more meat around it and made it a bulbous handle, and designed your bow starting from that, it certainly would have been better, and the whole grip/fade area would have been possibly shorter, I think.

[bootboy]

I was just going to start the tillering process. Then came in and read how strongly everyone advices me not to proceed. Due to the structural integrity of the arrowshelf.
I Still am Of the belief that this is a viable design, though I admit it needs to be upgraded a little. So What if i wrapped the antler in sinew?

[denny]

I do sell bows, but the customers I deal with don't know dukey about bows, that is why they trust me on my judgement. If In doubt which it sounds like your are, learn from your experience,and whip out another.I do a lot of handles,however it takes a lot of experience in changing the integrity of the bow stave, I have broken a lot of beautiful bows by a cut here and there. be careful and safe,When bows break they have a unbelievable amount of force and sound like Gun some times.And If you are in the way ..o 'well. I like the Idea of the balboas handle, that is the handle I choose for hallmarked bows. Nice job overall thou,I must say that and gave us all something to think about. Takes courage to ask for help, but when we stop asking , we stop learning. Denny

[makenzie71]

I would fully recommend finishing the bow...no point in not at this point.  Use it all as a learning experience.  I actually didn't realize there was a knot in the handle...that shelf, plus a knot...I really don't know about that.  I wouldn't trust it at all.  I would still finish the bow, but I would really keep my expectations very low.

After getting the limbs nicely tillerred, you might consider cutting them off and making a take-down bow.

[George Tsoukalas]

denny, excellent post. I've been making or trying to make bows for 20 years. I still break them and I still make mistakes especially when I leave my comfort zone and trying something new or something I haven't done in awhile. I'm still learning. Take heart, bootboy. Jawge

[medicinewheel]

Bootboy, I don't think the design is wrong; it's just to much of a risk for that handle to come apart, and if it does it will do with a bang most likely, just as Denny said!

[bootboy]

Well 11 months later, and Im almost ready to show the pics on this one. mwahahaa!!!

[youngbowyer33]

Can't wait to see

[okiecountryboy]

Well 11 months later, and Im almost ready to show the pics on this one. mwahahaa!!!

NOW THATS JUST PLAINO ORNERY!!!!
Show the dang pics!!!

Ron

[toomanyknots]

"NOW THATS JUST PLAINO ORNERY!!!!
Show the dang pics!!!"

  Beyond ornery! Ya, I second that. I wanna see the pics too. I so thought it was going to be a board bow when I saw the title, and then saw the actual bow. I think it is the first red oak bow I have seen that is actually a true selfbow!

[acker]

Holmegaard ??
No, that's not a Holmegaard style bow , it is an Møllegabet 
You might change the thread title .

The bow looks pretty cool , but I do worry about the handle like the others do
acker

[bootboy]

mollegarbet?
 whats the difference i thought it was the same thing.

Ya niot only did this bow NOT blow apart its pulling something like 85lbs at 20"
lemme get these photos on the computer you guys will have a feild day.

[acker]

The same ? nö 
You might read this :
http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/27645

acker