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Offline Kitsu

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Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« on: March 11, 2009, 01:40:08 pm »
What type of knife is better for ring chasing??? in my opinion i think a somewhat dull knife is better because if it is too sharp it wont follow the ring, it will just go down a few rings rather then just one,
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 01:42:18 pm »
I've always used a dull draw knife. Never tried a sharp one.
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 01:46:47 pm »
my draw knife is very sharp and I have found that if I turn it around backwards and have it at a 90 degree angle to the wood it works as a great scraper.

I'm not trying to hijack your thread, but will using my knife in this manner damage it?

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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 02:25:55 pm »
It has never damaged mine to use it as a scraper.I guess a real tool guy might disagree! ::) My draw knife belonged to my wife's Dad and he got it 50 years ago from a flea market. ::) I don't think it has ever been sharpened.

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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 02:37:20 pm »
Hawkeye the Hornbeam you have doesn't need to have a ring chased, just get the bark and cambium layer off and your good to go :)

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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 03:55:28 pm »
Dana, We all are. We're checking into the problem now.    ;)  Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 04:15:52 pm »
Pat I'm having the same trouble with PM's ???

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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 05:00:24 pm »
I like a drawknife that isn't razor sharp for ring chasing, but not completely real dull, either. Bearbowman, I use the drawknife like that a lot, too. You just have to be careful to not drop it hard enough to make deep cuts in the ring at the start of a scrape, especially with thin-ringed wood.
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 05:11:34 pm »
I found I like one of both.  A sharp one is nice for removing sapwood and other stubborn stuff.  A somehwat dull one is nice for ring chasing.  But I have a lot to learn.
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 10:58:44 pm »
Hawkeye the Hornbeam you have doesn't need to have a ring chased, just get the bark and cambium layer off and your good to go :)

Pat I'm having the same trouble with PM's ???
My hornbeam stave broke at a knot in the middle when i tried to straighten it out (a little twist in it, okay it wasnt so LITTLE...) but yeah... it is prolly 10 miles away i through in the river next to me :P (where all my failures go, other then ones i can see use in, or useful staves that can be made into shortbows...)

well... i have some Hop-hornbeam (this time i KNOW its hop-hornbeam :P the bark looks like paper went thru a paper shredder, made 20x thicker, AND glued all over the tree with them all facing in the same downward direction :P) very straight and not many knots and they are all small, but i dont want them to affect anything so i brought this topic up... i heard it cant hurt to chase rings on ANY wood :P just woods like osage NEED it more then others :P
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Re: Sharp knives Vs Somewhat sharp knives
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 07:26:00 am »
I use a sharp draw knife for debarking and chasing,and keep my scraper handy for the clean up.
You just have to be careful not to let it cut to deep and get into the next ring, I try and catch the ring I want in the crusty layer above it and clean that up with my scraper. :) Never used a drawknife
for a scraper. :)
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